General Questions : Criticker lists

[td888]

What's this?
http://www.criticker.com/lists/

And what can I do with it?

[epiphany]

Statistics? Please say that it's statistics.

EDIT: Looks like it isn't

[td888]

Yes, I was expecting that too. Bummer....

[prowler]

this is pretty good as a time waster..

i guess we can post bugs here? when clicking on "criticker profile" on a lists profile such as http://www.criticker.com/lists/profile/fudgieb you get to your own profile

[mpowell]

What's this? http://www.criticker.com/lists/

A valid question!

Criticker Lists is a new utility that we started work on a few weeks ago. Basically, it allows you to create and rank lists of any sort. From books (Stephen King's Dark Tower Series), to collections of people (Least Talented Stars), to music, to movies, you can now compare your point of view on anything that enters your mind.

It's only tangentially related to Criticker the film website -- nothing you do on Criticker Lists affects your film recommendations or TCIs. One day, it might.

Why have we created this? The easiest answer is that we were looking for a way to spark more interest in Criticker, and this seemed like a great way to draw people to the site. It's fun and we plan on marketing it heavily. This might draw a lot of users who aren't necessarily interested in ranking movies, but it's all good.

Don't worry about Lists draining a lot of resources from normal Criticker -- we're not stopping or slowing down work on the main movie aspect of the website. This is just an "extra", which might turn into a popular and money-making utility. Or might not. We'll see!

This is a brand-new thing, and as such there will probably be some errors. Please send any problems or suggestions to lists-at-criticker.com.

[td888]

Mmm. imo it's not in the scope of the criticker website, but it's your site. you can do what you want. At the moment it's not interfering with the movie-functionality, so it's ok for me.

I hope you're gonna put some effort in adding real functionality to Criticker (like ignoring collections, displaying of stats., etc..). The latest changes are putting me off (like the advertising crap), I'm just hanging on because of your excellent TCI and PSI recommendations, but that's about it.

[mpowell]

i guess we can post bugs here? when clicking on "criticker profile" on a lists profile such as http://www.criticker.com/lists/profile/fudgieb you get to your own profile

Thanks, that's been fixed now!

[Spunkie]

When random is hit, it sometimes goes to tests that you have already done. Useless, isn't it?

[paulofilmo]

you can now compare your point of view on anything that enters your mind.

It's only tangentially related to Criticker the film website -- nothing you do on Criticker Lists affects your film recommendations or TCIs. One day, it might.

In a sort of extension of personality collaborative filtering. . . to see if it correlates with film taste?

I think it's worth being open about any aspirations beyond an influx of users. It might help rally support and ideas, because at the moment it feels pretty ominous in its simultaneous distance from film recommendation yet affiliation with Criticker.

Is there a mission statement or guiding ethos that can be examined in anticipation? I'd rather be let down gently if the aim is a populist Flixter nightmare/Amazon advert.

Otherwise, there's hopefully better ways of bringing in Shrek 2 dislikers and their resulting advertising revenue.

[Quicky]

you can now compare your point of view on anything that enters your mind.

[...] at the moment it feels pretty ominous in its simultaneous distance from film recommendation yet affiliation with Criticker. Is there a mission statement or guiding ethos that can be examined in anticipation? I'd rather be let down gently if the aim is a populist Flixter nightmare/Amazon advert. Otherwise, there's hopefully better ways of bringing in Shrek 2 dislikers and their resulting advertising revenue.

I'm afraid I'm with paulo on this... The one thing Criticker Lists reminds me of right now is the thousands of annoying and money-cashing useless Facebook applications and quizzes, i.e. useless timewasters that have no real content whatsoever. You don't learn anything through Criticker Lists, like you do through Criticker.

I've always been a huge supporter of Criticker, and advertise it as much as possible (without being too annoying) on Facebook using my "I gave XXX a score of YY on Criticker.com" notes a few times a week, but these new Criticker lists is not something I will offer my support for. To me Criticker is a film website for people who enjoy films. In the community we've always lobbied for games and books versions of Criticker which would be non-film additions to Criticker that have real value, but these Criticker lists seem to me like like empty content for cheap revenue. I don't mind cheap marketing if you're providing valuable content in return (e.g. a Facebook application that would post my Facebook notes automatically), but these Criticker Lists?... I don't know...

I'm sure you've spent a great deal of time on this, but I thought Criticker was above this kind of money-making. If you want easy money, add a donate button which I'd gladly use. If you want more users, market the main website like I'm doing on Facebook.

At least those are my 2 cents...

[EDIT] Maybe it's not really fair to bash on something that has hardly even started, but I'm reasonably confident that this communication platform (a single thread in the Criticker forum) is quite far away from the targetted audience for the Criticker Lists and should therefore be of little influence on the popularity or success of Criticker Lists.