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Re: In Time

Postby Stewball on Fri Apr 13, 2012 9:52 am

From my "For What It's Worth Dept.":

TrixRabbi wrote:-Darwinian Capitalism. He just said that. He seriously just said that.


I keep hearing this phrase ever since I saw it, and every time (haw!), In Time with Philippe at the poker table flashes across my mind--so I came here to try to break the chain, so to speak.

This is the scene in question. http://www.hitfix.com/videos/in-time-darwinian-capitalism

I couldn't really find a good definition of the phrase (Google keeps redirecting to Social Darwinism), but it's obvious he's using it to justify his superiority, which is perfectly appropriate and fits the scenario. More important, I think, is that this isn't the viewpoint of the movie since Philippe is the bad guy. I think the point is that the acquisition of power is one thing, using it to oppress others is another. Capitalism is not a system than can exist in a vacuum since it will always devolve into an oligarchy as it does here, without a mechanism to protect individual rights--at which point it is no longer capitalism. Survival of the fittest is never in perpetuity in any case, even if you control time at the moment (time being a questionable medium of exchange to begin with). There will always be someone who is more fit, more lucky, or is a faster clock. :roll:

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Re: In Time

Postby TheDenizen on Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:44 pm

Something most people forget when discussing the Darwinian concept of "survival of the fittest" is that it's not directly related to being faster or stronger. It has to do with increased access to mating partners. Fitness is not necessarily defined by physical fitness, but an ability to successfully procreate with greater frequency than other individuals within the population. Granted, this can be achieved by physical superiority, but not always.

With this in mind, it becomes pretty clear to me that the inherent meaning behind the phrase "Darwinian Capitalism" is that rich dudes get laid more.

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Re: In Time

Postby Stewball on Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:31 pm

TheDenizen wrote:Something most people forget when discussing the Darwinian concept of "survival of the fittest" is that it's not directly related to being faster or stronger. It has to do with increased access to mating partners. Fitness is not necessarily defined by physical fitness, but an ability to successfully procreate with greater frequency than other individuals within the population. Granted, this can be achieved by physical superiority, but not always.

With this in mind, it becomes pretty clear to me that the inherent meaning behind the phrase "Darwinian Capitalism" is that rich dudes get laid more.


The faster, stronger, more attractive, smarter, richer, most potent, rock stars get access to the "best" ( :roll: ) females, ergo those qualities feed into the objective. Put another way, the male with the most resources is most attractive to the most females. Money is a good measure of those resources in real life, but mainly comes to us as we age (not so where time is the currency). Potential is the other measure is harder to judge, but the ages of the partners will be closer which is more beneficial for the chances for the children. Potential definitely outclassed currency on hand in the movie, particularly after he allied himself with the magnates daughter.

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Re: In Time

Postby movieboy on Mon Apr 08, 2013 6:44 am

Watched the movie on TV couple of days back. The concept itself is decent, but the execution is really not good. Poor Writing, plot with a lot of holes and inane dialogues. But still just about enough to keep you interested enough to watch the movie through till the end. Trueman Show was a much better movie from the same director.

Justin Timberlake is decent. Cillian Murphy plays Cillian Murphy. The girl plays the doll like, rich girl role just about adequately. The man-child from 'Mad Men' is good casting for his role - he looks like an overgrown kid even in 'Mad Men'.

Tier 4.

TheDenizen wrote:Something most people forget when discussing the Darwinian concept of "survival of the fittest" is that it's not directly related to being faster or stronger. It has to do with increased access to mating partners.


Survival of the fittest, I agree is not directly related to faster or stronger.
It's whatever is important in that era to living longer and also mating partners. Both are important because even if you have more access to mating partners, it's not going to help much if you are going to die at 18.

At different times in our evolution, this has been different. Looks have always been relevant, but at some time, the other important criteria was strength, now it's probably making money.
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Re: In Time

Postby martryn on Fri Apr 12, 2013 12:28 am

I agree with Movieboy above me. In fact, my own review of the film, which I ranked at the start of the year:

"A great premise, and a poor film behind it. I only rank this high due to the fantastic idea for a story. The movie itself is stupid, but the premise... you just want this premise to work."

There were a few decent scenes and some decent acting... occasionally. But the script itself was weak and the actors didn't have much to go off of. What a fantastic idea for a story, and yet an incredibly poor attempt at execution. Tier 5.

I like Amanda Seyfried because she has big eyes and bigger tits, but I really didn't want her character to be part of the plot of the film. I didn't like the fact that the movie explored class warfare the way it did. Sure, I wanted to see it present, but I'm a conservative, and I'd like to think that the system works. I wanted to see the system work where time = money and the consequences of such, instead of the rich and powerful vampiring themselves off of the lower classes, and people live daily in fear that tomorrow will be their last day.

And they explored some of the concepts that I wanted to see, such as running everywhere, but the interesting bits of the movie were under-explored so we could, instead, be given yet another liberal propaganda film.

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Re: In Time

Postby Proximity on Sun May 05, 2013 3:47 am

Of course Trobber Dobson over here made this thread and called this movie good. Ludicrous.

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Re: In Time

Postby movieboy on Sun May 05, 2013 3:58 am

Proximity wrote:Of course Trobber Dobson over here made this thread and called this movie good. Ludicrous.


What is 'Trobber Dobson' and the wth is 'Herp shnyrf derp floo'?
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Re: In Time

Postby ShogunRua on Sun May 05, 2013 4:11 am

movieboy wrote:
Proximity wrote:Of course Trobber Dobson over here made this thread and called this movie good. Ludicrous.


What is 'Trobber Dobson' and the wth is 'Herp shnyrf derp floo'?


I'm seriously curious about "Trobber Dobson" as well. Even after searching online, I don't understand the reference. Obviously, it's a disparaging comparison about Stewball, but what it pertains to remains a mystery.

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Re: In Time

Postby Stewball on Sun May 05, 2013 12:59 pm

ShogunRua wrote:I'm seriously curious about "Trobber Dobson" as well. Even after searching online, I don't understand the reference. Obviously, it's a disparaging comparison about Stewball, but what it pertains to remains a mystery.


It's an example of the erratica manifested by those of the throes of a breakdowns often suffered by the Twitterati when attempting to be cogent in the criticism of Yours Truly--I assume.

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