Just1n wrote:ShogunRua wrote:Just1n wrote:No problem with making money. I got no objection with that. I was under the impression that the thread was created to debate Statham's acting ability and i am of the opinion that unless he chooses more challenging roles then he wont be regarded as a serious actor with a depth of range.
This same criticism can be applied to Pacino and De Niro during the last 20 years. Their diversity of roles and overall number of quality films is the same as those of Statham in the same timespan. Clearly, those two guys have no depth of range or serious acting chops either, right?
No it can't. For sure the roles Pacino and De Niro have chosen in the last years have been pants but what they did in their early careers far outstrips anything Statham has ever done. To suggest otherwise is far fetched.
Which was my entire point. Pacino and De Niro had the awesome fucking luck to have their careers take off in the 1970s, the greatest era for Hollywood films ever. They got to work with legendary directors like Lumet, Scorsese, Coppola, etc. when they were all at the peak of their powers. This was back when directors and writers had unprecedented freedom to make films they wanted to, as opposed to something that has to appeal to "4 quadrants" in movie analyst speak.
Statham didn't have the same luck. Thus, he never had an opportunity to show whether he was a truly amazing actor or not. His roles in Mean Machine and Snatch would suggest he has good ability, but without the chance to play someone like a Travis Bickle or Michael Corleone, how do you know for certain?
Hell, look at freaking Vin Diesel. The guy can't act to save his life, right? Well, pair him with that same Sidney Lumet in an excellent movie with a great script and all-around cast like Find Me Guilty, and guess what? Suddenly, he is pretty good. Not great, but pretty damn good. A performance many Oscar winners would be fine with.
And once you take away the fantastic directors and masterpiece films Pacino and De Niro have starred in (two legitimately great actors), then all of a sudden, they're not that much better than someone like Statham. That was my point about the last 20 years, which you are still not understanding.