General Discussion : Films with most polarized rankings?

[Spunkie]

Fahrenheit 9/11 sucks since it caters self righteous/self assumed/self serving TRUTH; like some other people here that claim to possess the ungodly diamond of truth, not their pinhole view of reality.

[Stewball]

Diversity of opinion.

It's that simple.

You're absolutely right.....sometimes.......depending on what you're talking about.

Then there's the other question, which is more important, opinions or their diversity.

[sixx]

Diversity of opinion.

It's that simple.

You're absolutely right.....sometimes.......depending on what you're talking about.

Then there's the other question, which is more important, opinions or their diversity.

Well, of course it's hard to argue over things like science and mathematics. There isn't much room for a debate over gravity.

But on the other hand, I believe that diversity of opinion is the best thing a society can have. It encourages the most important freedom anyone can have -- speech.

Think about it like this -- 99.9% of people think Fred Phelps (leader of the Westboro Baptist Church) is a terrible person with completely moronic views/opinions. Yet the way I see, and I may be grilled for this, it is still important that there are people like him. He pushes the limits of speech and diversity. No matter the opinion, it should never be silenced.

Look at Hitler. One of the first things he did was silence the people in favor of his "truth".

[Stewball]

Well, of course it's hard to argue over things like science and mathematics. There isn't much room for a debate over gravity.

You'd be surprised. For some, the universe is completely subjective perception. I run into it all the time.

But on the other hand, I believe that diversity of opinion is the best thing a society can have. It encourages the most important freedom anyone can have -- speech.

But as noted above, opinion is not a counter to fact--even though many twist themselves into pretzels claiming that it is.

Think about it like this -- 99.9% of people think Fred Phelps (leader of the Westboro Baptist Church) is a terrible person with completely moronic views/opinions. Yet the way I see, and I may be grilled for this, it is still important that there are people like him. He pushes the limits of speech and diversity. No matter the opinion, it should never be silenced.

Again, it depends on what he's saying. You can't yell fire in a crowded theater, or equate "up" with "down" for political advantage, or say the definition of "is" is not what it is, in order to avoid prosecution. But you can say that Helen of Troy is ugly all you want, beauty is a subjective matter. In fact, true morals are objective, but the punishment for violating them is subjective. Contrariwise, stoning someone for violating the sabbath, which is NOT immoral (violating the sabbath), makes the punishment immoral.

Look at Hitler. One of the first things he did was silence the people in favor of his "truth".

His "truth" was necessarily invalid because it violated the morals (the lives, liberty and property) of those it was supposed to uphold. The law's only purpose is to enforce that true morality, or should be.

[TheDenizen]

Well, of course it's hard to argue over things like science and mathematics. There isn't much room for a debate over gravity.

Yup, but it doesn't stop simpletons from doing exactly that.

[sixx]

Since when did this conversation become about morality and ethics?

Like Denizen said, it doesn't stop simpletons from debating whether science is the truth or not. Should they be shut up just because the majority doesn't agree with them? No. Think about it in terms of deities. There isn't much to prove they (or He) exist, yet they can still be an interesting topic of discussion. All voices should be heard.

Also, "true" morals are nothing more than what a society deems them to be.

[TheDenizen]

All voices should be heard. .

ehhhhh....all voices have the right to be heard I suppose....but there are plenty of nutters out there who should be completely ignored, not encouraged.

[Aron Ericson]

http://www.criticker.com/film/Blue_1993/

[nauru]

Nice find. Never heard of this one.

[Pickpocket]

The only explanation for anyone putting Blue into his/her tier 10 is that they want to seem like an intellectual or something. Seriously one of the most pretentious and stupid films ever made. Derek Jarman is horriawful