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Why do so many people hate The Blair Witch Project?

Postby HorrorMaster on Thu Dec 18, 2008 7:20 am

I just cannot bring myself to understand what on Earth it actually is about "The Blair Witch Project" (and also the lesser know but still significant and utterly incredible "Open Water" in 2004) that just annoys so many people. I could just as easily ask "why don't you like the movies?", but I might as well go ahead with the post and make it somewhat worthy of existing. I wish I could understand why so many people take on-board the truly unbelievable craftsmanship and skill in the art of the no-budget-film-making of these films, as nothing but a huge, disrespectful "fuck you!" to their faces. I wish I could understand, but I know I won't ever be able to.

Observe the following paragraph:

"Kill Bill" is my favourite film of all time, but there are parts of me which say "The Blair Witch Project" is my true favourite as I have never seen a more powerful film. Just forget for a second that the budget for that film was around about 0.99999% of that of most big-budget blockbuster films: I believe it is the single most terrifying film ever made, unbelievably realistic, indescribably well-acted and made and as entertaining as it's possible for a film to get.


Be aware that it is not fact, just an opinion. You see, what I'm trying to say is that I am giving reasoning behind why I think it is a masterpiece or not, and while there are certainly a percentage of people who do give reasoning behind why it's so bad, the vast majority never really seem to be doing that, and most don't say anything other than "it sucks" or "I hate it". I know it might seem a little unusual or far-fetched to being creating such a thread just about one, even two, films, but you'll have to forgive me but I think they're worth 1000 threads. I am basically just asking anyone who hates either of these films to just save me, and as I can imagine some other people on the planet, a whole lot of anger, confusion and ultimately, frustration. Please, just to silence me because I'm interested to know. Haters, why do you hate "The Blair Witch Project", and if applicable, "Open Water" :?:

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Re: Why do so many people hate The Blair Witch Project?

Postby JooJoo on Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:21 am

I haven't seen it since theater, day one, in the year of '99. Incredible theater experience and I remember thinking the same things.

I've dreaded watching it again due to the over-exposure of this flick after it hit (& also the astonishingly-bad sequel).

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Re: Why do so many people hate The Blair Witch Project?

Postby Rufflesack on Thu Dec 18, 2008 9:28 am

I don't have any grounds to dislike the film, but I'll admit to be largely prejudiced against it. I've never seen it, and I don't plan to. Every time I hear "The Blair Witch Project" I think "oh, that pretentious tosh". Why? I dunno, it's just always rubbed me as slightly arrogant. Sure, it's impressive, and sure, I guess it was scary back when it came out and people thought it was a true story, but the fact that as far as I've been informed all the scares derive from the fact that the ad campaign pretty much tricked the entire world into thinking it was a true story just doesn't rub me right.

It just gives me the impression that the film's quality isn't based on quality film making, but quality advertising. I might be wrong about all these points, and it might be a good film in it's own right (disregarding the notion that it's a true story). I have, as I said, never seen it.

For the record, don't really know anything about Open Waters, and I don't "hate" The BWP per se.. I just think the whole idea of making a horror film and presenting it as a true story when it's not is pretty arrogant. That's just something that doesn't rub me right in a way that the quality of the film can't really rectify no matter how good it is, which is why I haven't bothered watching it.

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Re: Why do so many people hate The Blair Witch Project?

Postby HorrorMaster on Thu Dec 18, 2008 10:31 am

It's funny, I wasn't even aware that the film advertised itself how it did and was marketed as a true story until long after I had seen it two times. I don't recall ever thinking it was real either. Just shows how incredibly effective it really is. I think they used really clever advertising and "The Curse of the Blair Witch" was an excellent fake documentary. I believe when most films are hyped up as much as the film was, tonnes of people are, no matter what, going to hate it if they think it wasn't exactly as perfect as a thousand people who hadn't even seen it said it would be.

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Re: Why do so many people hate The Blair Witch Project?

Postby Rufflesack on Thu Dec 18, 2008 11:42 am

Hey, as I said I'm not necessarily denying the quality of the film. I just can't stand false advertising like that. The way I see it, from The Blair Witch Project, things like Loose Change aren't very far away.

In a slightly hypocritical twist; I absolutely loved Peter Jackson's fake documentary Forgotten Silver. I think it's the level of arrogance in which a fake documentary is presented that bothers me. There's a difference between "Hey, I found some stuff, believe it if you want but here it is" and "OH WOW I FOUND THIS TOTALLY AMAZING THING THIS IS GONNA CHANGE THE WORLD YOU MUST SEE IT AND BELIEVE IT NOW".

The latter applies more to Loose Change than BWP of course, but I certainly get the feeling that BWP falls in between the two, probably much more towards the latter than what I can accept. :P

I don't actually mind films being overhyped, that usually just leads me to like them more. I'm not opposed to the hype around BWP, more to what caused the hype.

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Re: Why do so many people hate The Blair Witch Project?

Postby Pickpocket on Thu Dec 18, 2008 6:00 pm

I hate it because the characters are all douchebag faggots that needed to die, the story is laughably bad, and it ISN'T scary. Sorry, seeing a pile of rocks, some sticks hanging in the air and loud breathing isn't scary! And then all the parts that could be scary aren't because it either gets too dark or the camera shakes so much that you can't see a fucking thing.

"I found some cigarettes. I found them all the way in the bottom of my pack. We're still alive 'cause we're smoking."

That is actual dialog from the movie. I can't believe the other character didn't punch him in the face when he said that. What a fag.

And yes, I realize you need to imagine yourself in that situation but come on, is it really believable? A witch that haunts shit? What am I, 6 years old?

Rufflesack wrote:It just gives me the impression that the film's quality isn't based on quality film making, but quality advertising.

This is 100% true.

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Re: Why do so many people hate The Blair Witch Project?

Postby Rufflesack on Thu Dec 18, 2008 7:52 pm

Still not seen the film, but Pickpocket's impressions of it are pretty much exactly what I expect it to be. :P

And it also needs to be said that if that is dialog from the movie, I find enough grounds to hate it already. Jesus Christ. :(

EDIT: For those who have seen both The Blair Thumb (Oedekerk parody) and The Blair Witch Project: is the parody-douchebaggery in Blair Thumb representative for that of BWP? I've found most of his other thumb films to be greatly accurate in their parodies (Thumbtanic, God Thumb, Bat Thumb, etc), but not having seen this I can do nothing but assume that it's pretty accurate.

Blair Thumb is great though. Hilarious. "OH MY GOD MAN. WE'RE TOTALLY LOST DUDE. WE'RE TOTALLY, LIKE, LOST COMPLETE! COMPLETE TOTAL!" And so on for about 20 minutes. That film is actually my favorite of the thumb flicks, makes me laugh every time. Even more so with the insane Oedekerk commentary - "Everybody likes chicken!"

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Re: Why do so many people hate The Blair Witch Project?

Postby Jeb on Thu Dec 18, 2008 9:17 pm

Listen, I may have said I hated it a couple times (Ok, maybe a million times), but it's actually not as bad as I remembered it. I watched it right when it came out in theaters, and absolutely hated it. Wasn't scary. Didn't make any sense and it was lacking in entertainment. The review I wrote for it is based exactly on that first viewing of it. But ever since I watched it again a couple days ago (I've been on a horror film marathon for a couple months now), it isn't as bad as I thought it was so many years ago. In it's low budget, it's amazing that they used all these different techniques and strategies to actually make it seem more intense and realistic. I'm still keeping my original review, however. Still, for the millionth time, it isn't really that terrible.

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Re: Why do so many people hate The Blair Witch Project?

Postby NoSex on Thu Dec 18, 2008 11:05 pm

Rufflesack wrote:I don't have any grounds to dislike the film, but I'll admit to be largely prejudiced against it. I've never seen it, and I don't plan to. Every time I hear "The Blair Witch Project" I think "oh, that pretentious tosh". Why? I dunno, it's just always rubbed me as slightly arrogant.


do you know what the words "pretentious" or "arrogant" mean? because, either, you don't, or you just have a tremendously perverted impression of THE BLAIR WITCH PROJECT. i assure you, of all the things that the film may or may not be, it is most certainly not pretentious or arrogant.

Pickpocket wrote:I hate it because the characters are all douchebag faggots that needed to die, the story is laughably bad, and it ISN'T scary. Sorry, seeing a pile of rocks, some sticks hanging in the air and loud breathing isn't scary! And then all the parts that could be scary aren't because it either gets too dark or the camera shakes so much that you can't see a fucking thing.


Either you've been poisoned by a generation of MTV-styled dick directing, or you just naturally have no imagination whatsoever. THE BLAIR WITCH PROJECT did an amazing thing at the end of the millennium, it denied, for once, the societal and cultural stereotype of the meat-headed, completely deviant horror fan (a stereotype, of course, that had been enforced and perpetuated by a decade of absolutely juvenile and unimaginative hollywood horror). For once, the audience wasn't completely disregarded as players themselves. And, again, the doctrine that "what you do not see is far more terrifying than what you could ever see," was taken and adopted for the brilliance that it is.

Outside of the hype, the film could not survive - not because the film could not subside on its own, i think, but because the film demands a certain deal of patience and imagination that, honestly, most audiences just don't have today.

Pickpocket wrote:What a fag.


what a moron.

ANYWAYS:


i'm terribly pleased to meet someone who appears to share the same appreciation for this (underrated) masterpiece of horror. i always feel like i'm the only one. it gets a bit frustrating and really really annoying; every time i have to answer that damn question ("what's your favorite movie?"), most of everyone just assumes i'm some jackass that doesn't take cinema seriously. it truly is a terrifying, hilarious, haunting, and insightful little film, and i'm glad i'm not completely alone in that summation.

from what i have found, most people have very superficial reasons for disliking THE BLAIR WITCH PROJECT. usually i hear, "i could film that shit in my own backyard," or "it's not even shot like a real movie." both "reasons" are rather transparent. what i think has happened, essentially, is that, because of the hype, the film has gained quite a reputation. Because of this reputation, i think people usually have a prejudice against the film (think NAPOLEON DYNAMITE) before even seeing it.

anyways, just a few days ago a friend sent me a message. she had seen the movie (after i had told her over and over again that it was amazing), and she was asking me if there was anything that she missed, because she was "disappointed." i told her this, short & sweet:

"it is true that you may be missing something. although, your disappointment is not a complete surprise; most people aren't huge fans of the blair witch project.

altogether, just focus on the desperation and weakness of it all; you see these people enter the woods and completely and utterly disintegrate into hysteria, madness, hunger, fear, and helplessness. it's a fantastic microcosm of the human condition, played and presented in a tremendously realistic manner. further, you have to ponder the brilliance of the doctrine that, "what you don't see is far more terrifying than what you do." it's a film that demands a resurrection of the imagination in an era of highly explicit and thoughtless horror.

we'll talk, dawg.
"

whatev.

p.s. you'll avoid THE BLAIR WITCH PROJECT but you won't avoid those thumb parodies? really?!
p.p.s. don't sound like such a drunken homophobic bro and people might take you more seriously.
p.p.p.s. love love xoxoxo what what

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Re: Why do so many people hate The Blair Witch Project?

Postby Rufflesack on Thu Dec 18, 2008 11:35 pm

I'm a big fan of Steve Oedekerk (pre Neutron Boy Genius and all that). Nothing to Lose is hilarious, as is Kung Pow and his Thumb Parodies. I'm one for random humor, and any film that contains the line "if you're going outside, you'd better bring your coat because there's.. bacon out there" (Bat Thumb) is good in my book. Although this is the kind of thing I can completely understand other people dislike, so please don't berate me for enjoying it. I just love wacky stuff.

And yes, I do know what both pretentious and arrogant mean. My assumptions of the words are backed by wiktionary's definitions:
arrogant (comparative more arrogant, superlative most arrogant)
1. Having excessive pride in oneself.
pretentious (comparative more pretentious, superlative most pretentious)
2. Ostentatious; intended to impress others

And yes, from my experience of BWP (which I have already said is marginally anything at all) it is both those things. More the latter, I suppose. The attitude "hey look at us we've shot this film and it's a totally true story come see" screams of both those things, the way I see it. The film may be good, I'm not denying it (although I don't think it's the kind of film that would frighten me, I'm usually not frightened by outright scares but more by general eeriness. And no, "there's a witch in the forest" is not eeriness, that's a pretty blatant scare, no matter how it's made.). What I dislike is the attitude behind it. If you can like a film that is promoted as a true story when it's not, that's fine. I can't, and that's all I'm saying.

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