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Re: Upcoming 2012 movies

Postby Stewball on Tue Feb 21, 2012 1:48 am

ShogunRua wrote:
Stewball wrote:And Act of Valor it way better.


Does that mean you were lucky enough to watch The Raid at a film festival?


All I needed to see was the cheap martial arts overkill on display in the preview.

frederic_g54 wrote:]From the looks of it, its potential might be rendered flat by the wooden acting and cringe-inducing jingoism on display though I'm not the least bit surprised you enjoyed it so much.


On what do you base you evaluation that the acting is wooden (anything but) or that jingoism is a pervasive or even present element in the film (they didn't have time}. Looks like you're prejudging me and Act of Valor, but then why should I be the least bit surprised.

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Re: Upcoming 2012 movies

Postby ShogunRua on Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:53 am

Stewball wrote:
ShogunRua wrote:
Stewball wrote:And Act of Valor it way better.


Does that mean you were lucky enough to watch The Raid at a film festival?


All I needed to see was the cheap martial arts overkill on display in the preview.


Considering how much you gripe about people passing judgment on films they haven't seen, it's really hypocritical that you're doing the same thing here.

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Re: Upcoming 2012 movies

Postby frederic_g54 on Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:59 pm

Stewball wrote:On what do you base you evaluation that the acting is wooden


They've cast active-duty Navy Seals with little to zero acting experience. I'm sure these guys can skillfully handle a weapon and know their way on the battlefield but anyone will tell you they don't exactly operate at the forefront of performing arts.

Also, this.

Stewball wrote:or that jingoism is a pervasive or even present element in the film


From Bleedingcool:

My personal favourite - and I may have to watch it a second time to check that I actually saw it - was during an action scene, a soldier gets hit with a bullet but is saved because it is slowed by the American flag on the chest of his uniform. Outstanding.
...
The audience is left with the image of a baby grinning and gurgling in blissful ignorance as a voiceover states that it is his patriotic duty to one day go to war and die for his country. The film ends with a dedication to all those who have fought and died for their country ... and to those who will be required to do so in the future.


*rolls eyes*

Stewball wrote:Looks like you're prejudging me and Act of Valor


I'm just not getting my hopes up, hence my initial remark ("...might...")

Frankly, I was annoyed by the direction my post had taken (I suggest you read initial post again); I was merely announcing my excitement for a potentially kick-ass action vehicle, yet you seemed to have no problem pissing all over it by saying a film I have almost zero interest in seeing is way better than one you didn't even bother to watch.

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Re: Upcoming 2012 movies

Postby Stewball on Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:26 pm

frederic_g54 wrote:They've cast active-duty Navy Seals with little to zero acting experience. I'm sure these guys can skillfully handle a weapon and know their way on the battlefield but anyone will tell you they don't exactly operate at the forefront of performing arts.


You need to see it.

From Bleedingcool:

My personal favourite - and I may have to watch it a second time to check that I actually saw it - was during an action scene, a soldier gets hit with a bullet but is saved because it is slowed by the American flag on the chest of his uniform. Outstanding.


The "pro-war-propaganda" in the link address says it all. I just posted elsewhere the R/T scores, 17%--90%. The movie can't possibly be that bad in anyone's unbiased review. Even if the acting had been wooden, which it definitely is not, the staging is superb. Not nominating the cast for an academy award, but they offer more realistic performances than most mainstream combat movies. I mean this wasn't a character study offering, but there were a couple of outstanding characters anyway, particularly the Intel contact/briefer who interrogated Christo--who must have been a SEAL as well, no credit I could find.

I sort of remember wondering about a bullet stopping somethingorother. I'd have to see it again as well, but with all the realism, I refuse to believe that's what was being portrayed. Worst case I'd have to write it off as a minor, inscrutable flaw, and if that's what it was, I doubt it'd make it to wide release

The audience is left with the image of a baby grinning and gurgling in blissful ignorance as a voiceover states that it is his patriotic duty to one day go to war and die for his country. The film ends with a dedication to all those who have fought and died for their country ... and to those who will be required to do so in the future.

*rolls eyes*


Roll eyes indeed. You wanna post the exact quote instead of your or whoever's paraphrase?

Frankly, I was annoyed by the direction my post had taken (I suggest you read initial post again); I was merely announcing my excitement for a potentially kick-ass action vehicle, yet you seemed to have no problem pissing all over it by saying a film I have almost zero interest in seeing is way better than one you didn't even bother to watch.


"Pissing all over it"? I think we have the problem here, that and that you think a martial arts movie can be kick ass "action" (read fantasy), even with perfect acting and choreography. Since I was accused of pissing on it, I well might as just. 8-)

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Re: Upcoming 2012 movies

Postby Anomaly1 on Wed Mar 07, 2012 6:57 pm

PTA's The Master may be an October 2012 release. To celebrate, I'm going to drink a milkshake with the mattress man, surrounded by porn stars in a casino during frog rain.

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Re: Upcoming 2012 movies

Postby Pickpocket on Thu Mar 08, 2012 12:34 am

Anomaly1 wrote:PTA's The Master may be an October 2012 release. To celebrate, I'm going to drink a milkshake with the mattress man, surrounded by porn stars in a casino during frog rain.

can i come?

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Re: Upcoming 2012 movies

Postby ShogunRua on Thu Mar 08, 2012 4:44 am

"The Master" makes me think of the title character in "Master and Margarita"....which is a good thing.

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Re: Upcoming 2012 movies

Postby mwgerb on Thu Mar 08, 2012 4:52 pm

Anomaly1 wrote:PTA's The Master may be an October 2012 release. To celebrate, I'm going to drink a milkshake with the mattress man, surrounded by porn stars in a casino during frog rain.


Dear God I'm looking forward to the rest of the year.

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Re: Upcoming 2012 movies

Postby Stewball on Fri Mar 09, 2012 8:00 am

Bleedingcool wrote:My personal favourite - and I may have to watch it a second time to check that I actually saw it - was during an action scene, a soldier gets hit with a bullet but is saved because it is slowed by the American flag on the chest of his uniform. Outstanding.


Forgot to come back to this. He's hit by a shoulder fired grenade which was a dud.

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