General Discussion : The Demise of Pixar

[Dunder74]

Toy Story 4, Monster Inc. 2, and Finding Nemo 2 are all confirmed for production.

I don't know how involved Steve Jobs was or what exactly went wrong, but what is going on with Pixar? From what I saw in Brave, I think Disney has a lot more involvement in the studio now.

Anyway, despite the fact I will watch all three of these, this is disappointing.

[Stewball]

The last 3 were disappointing enough already.

[ayall]

I think you guys were destined to be let down by Pixar.

Toy Story, Monster Inc., Finding Nemo are all KIDS MOVIES.

Having a 3 year old, i've seen them about 100 times each.

Pixar's target audience is young children and infants; let there be no doubt about it.


Pixar has little to no competition, and are far from nearing demise.

While they may not make it to the top of the box-office, i assure you they will make up for it in home movies and merchandising.


As Adults, i find it surprising that many even consider Pixar movies watchable.
Kids Movies and Adults Movies; "ain't the same ballpark, ain't the same league, ain't even the same fuckin' sport."

[Dunder74]

I think you guys were destined to be let down by Pixar.

Toy Story, Monster Inc., Finding Nemo are all KIDS MOVIES.

Having a 3 year old, i've seen them about 100 times each.

Pixar's target audience is young children and infants; let there be no doubt about it.


Pixar has little to no competition, and are far from nearing demise.

While they may not make it to the top of the box-office, i assure you they will make up for it in home movies and merchandising.


As Adults, i find it surprising that many even consider Pixar movies watchable.
Kids Movies and Adults Movies; "ain't the same ballpark, ain't the same league, ain't even the same fuckin' sport."

The success of Pixar has always been centered on the fact that their works are able to appeal to people of all ages. Cars was too unrealistic and cartoonish, alienating anyone over the age of 13. That is why it is the most hated of Pixar's films.

If anything, the upcoming years will be some of their most successful. People miss Finding Nemo and Monsters Inc., and Toy Story 3 made a billion dollars.

Your baby made you really bitter haha.

[Zozan]

I like Cars. The first time I saw it, I found it a bit too stupid but strange enough, the more I watched it, the more I liked it.

And it plays everyday in the house, not the whole movie but bits and parts of it, we feed the kid while he is watching and I think I watch about 30 minutes of Cars every day. Having Cars2 mostly these days due to the preferences of the kid.

My wife used to hate it, and she used to try to convince the kid to watch something else instead of cars, but nowadays, she also is actually enjoying it.

[Luna6ix]

i'd agree with the assessment that this indicates a downfall of the creativity of the company, not that it's not there anymore, but simply being used less. now, demise of the company as a whole? no. that would only be accurate if continuing an already successful franchise like toy story were not profitable, my expectation is that toy story 4 and the other mentioned movies will make a lot of money, this may not be appealing to a movie afficianado, but it is certainly a shrewd business practice.

[jacobb1313]

i'd agree with the assessment that this indicates a downfall of the creativity of the company, not that it's not there anymore, but simply being used less. now, demise of the company as a whole? no. that would only be accurate if continuing an already successful franchise like toy story were not profitable, my expectation is that toy story 4 and the other mentioned movies will make a lot of money, this may not be appealing to a movie afficianado, but it is certainly a shrewd business practice.

Agreed. It's a business acting like a business. The days when a smaller company could have mystical lunches (http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20080626/ARCHIVES/306269897) and decide 5 years' worth of films at once is gone, and probably replaced by shareholders, committees and franchise concerns. It's just what it is - and part of being Disney. While I dislike the idea of milking a cash cow til it's dry, the Toy Story series felt appropriate, and who's to say these future sequels won't be just as quality? (Cars, on the flipside, was not something I enjoyed from the get-go.)

[Anomaly1]

You seem to have skipped over that Pixar also has three original films coming out as well, some of which sound quite risky and original in ways similar to their previous efforts, and 'Toy Story 4' is a persistent rumor that has no actual evidence to point towards its existence. Looks like to me that they're balancing things they know will make money with things that are risks. I don't really see it as something to be concerned about, although I can see why people would be, but still talking about 'the demise of Pixar' seems a bit premature.

[CMonster]

You also seem to have missed that their best work has happened in the past decade or so and that some of their best work has been sequels (Toy Story 2 and 3 both of which are probably better than the original and didn't rest to much on the laurels of the previous successes of the franchise). Saying that the originality and creativity from Pixar is dead because they got some sequels coming down the pipe is hyperbolic. This would be like getting scared that the Coen brothers lost their ability to make amazing movies after the Ladykillers came out, its crazy.

[Stewball]

I think you guys were destined to be let down by Pixar.

Toy Story, Monster Inc., Finding Nemo are all KIDS MOVIES.

Having a 3 year old, i've seen them about 100 times each.

Pixar's target audience is young children and infants; let there be no doubt about it.


Pixar has little to no competition, and are far from nearing demise.

While they may not make it to the top of the box-office, i assure you they will make up for it in home movies and merchandising.


As Adults, i find it surprising that many even consider Pixar movies watchable.
Kids Movies and Adults Movies; "ain't the same ballpark, ain't the same league, ain't even the same fuckin' sport."

First of all I think animated features and shorts have always attempted to appeal to children and adults--who bring children to the movies. Two of the features they use to appeal to adults are nostalgia and adult humor that goes over the kids heads. On top of that are messages that adults like to reinforce with their children. All this goes for live action "children's" films as well. If you want to tank at the box office, make a movie that appeals only to children. Teenage movies are the opposite--whatever sets them apart from their parents likes seems to thrive.

My favorite Pixar flicks are:

Toy Story
Finding Nemo
The Incredibles
Cars
Ratatouille (the most adult, thus its lower box)
Up

TS3, Cars 2 and Brave are at the bottom of my list (Brave at the bottom of the kids list as well apparently). And, btw, I thought Disney's Tangled (sans Pixar) was excellent.