Ocelot wrote:...The difference is that a lot more people will see it and the story/property will be elevated to the "real" artistic medium that is film.
Uhu
Ocelot wrote:Ebert was pretty much exactly who CMonster was talking about...
I misunderstood. I knew about his 'never art' bit and his later comments, I thought you meant he had something against game-to-film adaptations in-particular.
I think I stole my definition of art from Alan Moore; A truth told through fiction. Fiction can be anything; goo on canvas, words on paper, single or sequential pictures etc. ; if it reveals some 'truth' it's art, works for me.
In an [any medium] to [any other medium] adaptation there's always a 'loss in translation' be it; ballet to comic-book, tapestry to radio-play, poem to musical, whatever. Adapting books and vgs to cinema loses 'inner monologue', interactivity and stuff but gains kuleshov effect and stuff. I don't see a heirarchy of media-types from 'deeper' to 'shallower' --only different, with subjective preference vitally important.
Were not in tetris and space invaders times, games have more than just interactivity to offer now. Saying a game loses 'more' in adaptation to film than any other medium -seems to me- what CMonster was talking about.
ShogunRua wrote:Brothers: A Tale of Two Sons is both, although I would really urge anyone not to spoiler themselves, but play the game instead.
I've heard that allot, by not playing it I'm playing a dangerous game of not-getting-spoilered -living on the edge!
ShogunRua wrote:hellboy76 wrote:There is a large amount of video game movies coming out, with Assassin's Creed (and Michael Fassbender) probably being the biggest.
Ugh. Probably the big-name game with the most disappointing story, too. Outside of the multiplayer, I don't care for the series at all.
My bro said watching the AC3 playthrough was good, I'm dubious.
Of all the TBCs on that list only Deus Ex gets my hopes up and it's done by the day the earth stood still remake guy, i thought that was ok.
ShogunRua wrote:Ocelot wrote:...Adam Sessler
Sessler is a really unfortunate example to bring up...
I read even less vg criticism than I do movie, I prefer real people (I don't just come here to argue with Shogun
) but it seems they can't win. They get dismissed as people who couldn't cut it in some other field of journalism -which may well be true in many cases. biscuits ok but waffles on about menus and never goes deep enough into narrative for me, Sterling though tackles the real issues in gaming.Would better vg criticism make devs and writers 'raise their game', then attrecting better critics in some wonderful positive-feeddback loop? I dunno
paulofilmo wrote:It may have started with a 'P'. It also may'nt've.
Ive had Dear Esther in my (shamefully long) unplayed steam list for ages, always though of it as a wordy-looking proteus but i've avoided spoilers really well so could be very wrong. i'll have to make a little time for it.