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by Spunkie
Wed Aug 06, 2014 6:04 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Canvassing opinions on TV series
Replies: 182
Views: 237075

Re: Canvassing opinions on TV series

JacoIII wrote:Inside Amy Schumer


Thx for this advice, this girl is fantastic, female counterpart to Louie.
by ShogunRua
Wed Aug 06, 2014 7:00 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Canvassing opinions on TV series
Replies: 182
Views: 237075

Re: Canvassing opinions on TV series

JacoIII wrote:
CMonster wrote:
Melkor wrote:Well, I take Sopranos-Deadwood-Wire-MadMen period as the Golden Age of TV,

So the content of one channel was the bulk of the Golden Age of tv? Even if you can find a couple other shows like Lost to point to, that seems more cherry picking good shows rather than looking at the state of the industry as a whole and analyzing that. I'm sorry, but the Big Bang Theory being the biggest show on tv is not indicative of a "Golden Age". Like I said before, the proliferation of high-quality spread to other channels is something I would consider to be much more indicative of a Golden Age, but Big Bang Theory is still to popular and the Bachelor still exists so we aren't quite there yet.


And please don't say I cherry picked the Big Bang as a problem because I could list all the shitty reality tv shows that got huge ratings from that time period, but I don't have 5 hours to go write them all out.


The thing is that, in the past 10-15 years, TV became a LOT larger. More channels and streaming services meant more choice for viewers and that meant it was suddenly feasible to create good TV for a smaller, dedicated audience. Big Bang may be the #2 watched show but it's not pulling the numbers MASH, Cheers, or Seinfeld used to pull. Nothing is. So now the niche market has taken control.

We have seen a proliferation of good TV on other channels (just look at NBC's comedy lineup, or everything on FX, or FOX, or The Cartoon Network, even CBS has "The Good Wife") and, more importantly, these shows have managed to flourish in a way that would have been impossible in the 80s or 90s, which, I think, indicates a Golden Age. I don't think a presence of shit TV invalidates the monumental achievements and popularity of today's writers/producers. Scripted TV is better than it has ever been. The landscape isn't perfect (reality TV, Big Bang) but I think it's definitely a Golden Age.

At the very least, we are in a comedy Golden Age. TV comedy has never taken more risks and been more successful than it is right now. Big Bang and other Chuck Lorre shows stick out like a sore thumb until you realize that, in the 80s, almost every comedy was exactly as bad. Since 2000 we have had 30 Rock, Happy Endings, Arrested Development, Parks and Recreation, Rick and Morty, Community, Aqua Teen Hunger Force, Louie, Archer, Key and Peele, Futurama, the first few seasons of The Office, Frisky Dingo, Children's Hospital, Girls, It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, Curb Your Enthusiasm, Flight of the Conchords, Adventure Time, The Mindy Project, Brooklyn Nine-Nine, New Girl, Undeclared, Inside Amy Schumer, Enlisted, Kroll Show etc. etc. Each of these shows is approaching comedy in a new way instead of trying to replicate the success of more traditional sitcoms, as was the case only a few years ago. There's an unbridled creativity that has never existed in TV comedy before.

Alan Sepinwall wrote an interesting book about the TV Golden Age called "The Revolution Was Televised". I recommend it as Sepinwall has been a TV critic for long enough to see the changes first-hand.


While I agree with your overall sentiment about niche shows and no modern series having the penetration and cultural influence of a MASH, I disagree strongly about comedies.

Television dramas are better than ever, agreed.

But movie comedies are shittier than at any point in the last 40 years, and television comedies aren't much better. I won't go through all the series you mentioned that I absolutely despise unless you want me to, but most are the same brand of milquetoast, boring, safe, hipster humor.

Use the populist argument if you wish, but recall that people thought I Love Lucy was fucking hysterical back in the day. 20 years from now, a college kid will look back on garbage like Arrested Development, It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia, or 30 Rock and shake his head at what bizarre, shitty taste his parents had.
by JacoIII
Wed Aug 06, 2014 3:05 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Canvassing opinions on TV series
Replies: 182
Views: 237075

Re: Canvassing opinions on TV series

CMonster wrote:
Melkor wrote:Well, I take Sopranos-Deadwood-Wire-MadMen period as the Golden Age of TV,

So the content of one channel was the bulk of the Golden Age of tv? Even if you can find a couple other shows like Lost to point to, that seems more cherry picking good shows rather than looking at the state of the industry as a whole and analyzing that. I'm sorry, but the Big Bang Theory being the biggest show on tv is not indicative of a "Golden Age". Like I said before, the proliferation of high-quality spread to other channels is something I would consider to be much more indicative of a Golden Age, but Big Bang Theory is still to popular and the Bachelor still exists so we aren't quite there yet.


And please don't say I cherry picked the Big Bang as a problem because I could list all the shitty reality tv shows that got huge ratings from that time period, but I don't have 5 hours to go write them all out.


The thing is that, in the past 10-15 years, TV became a LOT larger. More channels and streaming services meant more choice for viewers and that meant it was suddenly feasible to create good TV for a smaller, dedicated audience. Big Bang may be the #2 watched show but it's not pulling the numbers MASH, Cheers, or Seinfeld used to pull. Nothing is. So now the niche market has taken control.

We have seen a proliferation of good TV on other channels (just look at NBC's comedy lineup, or everything on FX, or FOX, or The Cartoon Network, even CBS has "The Good Wife") and, more importantly, these shows have managed to flourish in a way that would have been impossible in the 80s or 90s, which, I think, indicates a Golden Age. I don't think a presence of shit TV invalidates the monumental achievements and popularity of today's writers/producers. Scripted TV is better than it has ever been. The landscape isn't perfect (reality TV, Big Bang) but I think it's definitely a Golden Age.

At the very least, we are in a comedy Golden Age. TV comedy has never taken more risks and been more successful than it is right now. Big Bang and other Chuck Lorre shows stick out like a sore thumb until you realize that, in the 80s, almost every comedy was exactly as bad. Since 2000 we have had 30 Rock, Happy Endings, Arrested Development, Parks and Recreation, Rick and Morty, Community, Aqua Teen Hunger Force, Louie, Archer, Key and Peele, Futurama, the first few seasons of The Office, Frisky Dingo, Children's Hospital, Girls, It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, Curb Your Enthusiasm, Flight of the Conchords, Adventure Time, The Mindy Project, Brooklyn Nine-Nine, New Girl, Undeclared, Inside Amy Schumer, Enlisted, Kroll Show etc. etc. Each of these shows is approaching comedy in a new way instead of trying to replicate the success of more traditional sitcoms, as was the case only a few years ago. There's an unbridled creativity that has never existed in TV comedy before.

Alan Sepinwall wrote an interesting book about the TV Golden Age called "The Revolution Was Televised". I recommend it as Sepinwall has been a TV critic for long enough to see the changes first-hand.