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livelove wrote:Otherwise, sacrificing herself via "hyperspace jump attack" would have been a honourable ending. But, as has been pointed out before in this thread, it raises the legitimate question of why this kind of attack has never been done, not even by a droid-piloted spacecraft.

Perhaps all this is narrowed down to lazy writing on part of all the previous writers in the franchise. It would have been a much more ground breaking scene had it been Leia be the one to do it. Visually it looked fantastic on screen but emotionally it help no weight whatsoever in the film. However had it been Leia and Luke communicating on the space craft as opposed to the bunker it would have held much more emotion. We all know there is no way to replace Carrie Fisher and it wont likely happen so I figured General Leia should have at least received an on screen exit from the Star Wars universe.

For my lifelong interest in Star Wars and the journeys of the characters I felt like the Last Jedi destroyed my interest in the future of the series. It was such a slow burning film that did very little to create threads for the final adventure. In fact it closed all the doors that had previously been opened with the Force Awakens.

The were vastly different films in many regards but the progression of the Story done in Last Jedi was much worse. Of course Force Awakens draws comparisons to A New Hope in the way it needed to set up a new set of core characters. The Last Jedi almost felt like it needed to slap Force Awakens in the face and be done with all the potential engaging story lines that it brought to the table.

Rian Johnson tore about the franchise just to be handed the ropes to his own original series that I most certainly no longer have interest in. Rian Johnson had no love for what Star Wars was all about and took a giant deuce on a series that had already been well accepted with audiences.

He disregarded the one story line with Rey and her parents that actually meant something. He had ample time to create a better way to handle Leia moving forward yet chose to for some reason leave that open ended. Does Luke even have a reason to be shown as a Force ghost? He does not mean all that much to Rey or Ren at this point. Finn was reduced to a horrible romantic sub plot that absolutely no one cared about. Poe is the most interesting character left but a final adventure surely cannot sustain itself based on his charisma a lone. Leia surely wont be recast out of respect for Carrie Fisher and that is rightfully deserved. So I ask with the utmost curiousity, what the hell is left for Episode 9 to even explore?

I'm going to use this thread for my own intimate rant, which will be spoiler-laden. If you haven't seen it, you'll be doing yourself the trouble by saving yourself the time anyways. And this is coming from a guy who loves Star Wars. I'm a Star Wars fanboy. And holy shit, this movie was trash.

For starters, why the hell is the "Resistance" even a resistance at all? Aren't they on the side of the government that was supposed to be in power for the last 30 years? Did the Galactic Republic just completely demilitarize? Yeah, I get it, the Starkiller base wiped out many core worlds or whatever, throwing the Republic into chaos, but The Force Awakens ends on a military victory for the Resistance that appeared to be a massive setback for the First Order. And yet, when The Last Jedi opens the tables are turned. There are now only a handful of Resistance ships and the First Order appears to be a massive war machine.

And yet, this war machine is ruled by an idiot. General Hux is easily duped by Poe in a comically embarrassing scene full of non-Star Wars style humor. And as neat as Poe flying in and destroying shit was, militarily it didn't make any sense for him to be capable of such a thing. How did he pull that shit off? Why the hell WEREN'T the fighters already scrambled? Not to mention you can't DROP bombs in space! You can't DROP ANYTHING in space! So all dramatic effect was killed by scientific incredulity.

So, while we are reeling from the opening scene, the movie brings us our first gut punch. Beloved Admiral Ackbar is unceremoniously killed off-screen. What. The. Fuck. We only learn this from a throw away line. Wow. Suck a dick, Star Wars.

So now the movie goes into a freefall. Ignoring Leia's eye-rolling use of the force to save herself from the vacuum of space... I am convinced now, looking back, that Carrie Fisher jettisoned herself out of the airlock so she wouldn't have to witness what came next. The Last Jedi killed her.

If you had to look at the three plot threads at this point:
1. Finn/Rose
2. Poe
3. Rey

Finn/Rose: Two bumbling idiots treat us to the worst 1/3 of the movie. The casino planet CGI scenes were shockingly poor. I thought they were recycling footage they generated for Attack of the Clones. The thinly veiled political commentary about rich people are bad... Jumping around on horse/dog/monkeys for a bumbling chase scene. And poorly using the talent of an actor like Benicio del Toro so he can play a stuttering idiot. And when the movie ends, or even before, you realize that these two "heroes" did nothing for the cause. They get in the way, they spoil the Resistance plans, killing probably hundreds of their allies in the process, and when Finn has a chance to sacrifice himself at the end of the movie in an act of mercy for the audience, he is spared because of a misplaced feeling of love.

Poe: Poe is NOT Han Solo, and will never be. He spends the entire movie ignoring the chain of command. He leads a fool-hardy attack at the beginning of the film, which it is later mentioned as having crippled the Resistance's ability to counter-attack the fleet pursuing them. He then spends the rest of the movie being a thorn in the side of Laura Dern. By the end of the movie, outside of his opening heroics, all he really does is get in the way. Very, very different from his characterization from The Force Awakens. He goes from being competent to deserving a court martial and possible execution.

Speaking of Laura Dern's character, why didn't she just let Poe in on her plans? Was it because he was not high enough ranked?

And the movie is set up to reveal a traitor in the midst of the Resistance forces. Someone had to plant the tracker on the Resistance ships, right? Or am I totally missing something? Laura Dern was teased as that traitor for the entire second act. When it is revealed that she is TOTALLY A GOOD GUY, I'm left thinking... who is the traitor, and when is he going to spring his traitorous treachery?

By the way, if flying a ship light speed while it is pointed in the general direction of other ships is an effective tactic for wiping out entire fleets, why didn't anyone attempt this against either of the two Deathstars? Or... any other significant military target, ever, in any other Star Wars media? Hell, even a droid could perform such a maneuver. They could make drones that are really just hunks of mass with light speed capability to use as weapons. They could have munitions that did this. Regardless, this is the sendoff that Admiral Ackbar needed. Why couldn't we keep Laura Dern for movie IX and off Ackbar in a badass and heroic way? At least Nien Nunb made it through another film.

Rey and Ren/Ben: The only truly redeeming moments in this film largely revolved around Rey and Ren. Their interaction with one another was the true driving force of this movie. I was largely disappointed with Rey's time with Luke. This is not the montage training scenes I was hoping for. There was, in fact, little to no actual training taking place. As with everything else in the film, this plot strand served no real, defining purpose. But at least her time with Luke gave us a backdrop for which Rey could communicate with Ren/Ben. I knew this was going to lead to an amazing sequence when the two finally met, and I was not too disappointed.

Yes, Snoke died like a bitch. We know nothing about him, his origins, how he got his scars, how he became so powerful in the force, who trained him, how he is connected with the Star Wars mythos of bygone days, how he corrupted Ren/Ben.

Yes, Rey's parents were nobodies, which doesn't bother me from a logical standpoint but does disturb me as a missed opportunity from a storytelling, dramatic reveal, POV. A lot of build-up since The Force Awakens and the two largest fan talking points are waved aside in a rolling miasma of meh.

But at least we got a cool fight scene that had lightsabers and lots of martial artist looking guys. This sequence felt raw, in the best use of that word, a la the original series fight sequences. There weren't showy uses of the force, crazy leaps and jumps, embellished flourishes of the blade. Just power, emotion, and down-to-earth fight choreography. Maybe the most enjoyable couple of minutes of the entire film.

But then it ends. And the filmmakers again prove they don't have the courage to take Star Wars to the places it needs to go. The safe thing to do was to have Rey and Kylo Ren refuse to work together, setting up the inevitable final lightsaber confrontation in the next movie. What would have proved to be a more interesting choice of narrative was for them to agree to work together. Kylo Ren would call off the assault, General Hux would become the new leader of the First Order, and the last movie would feature Rey as a voice of reason, control, and potential love interest for Ren/Ben and Kylo Ren serving as a teacher and mentor to the untrained Rey. There would be that tension between Poe - Finn and Kylo Ren. The reunion and act of forgiveness of Leia. A confrontation between Ren and Luke. And Rey and Ren could team up together to fight the mysterious Knights of Ren, who were mentioned in the Force Awakens and still have not appeared on-screen (unless they were the scrubs that were just killed).

But, nope, filmmakers are playing it safe.

So we have the finale, in which, following a trend set early in the film, the good guys run away to fight another day. The major cinematic theme of the film is flight. Luke Skywalker is given his chance to redeem himself, and instead he dies halfway across the galaxy after not even putting himself at risk. None of the main trio of characters serve any purpose, and accomplish nothing during the film. The events of the entire movie could have unfolded without them taking any action.

So now I'm left with questions:
Did they really cram the ENTIRE Resistance onto the Millennium Falcon?
Where are the Knights of Ren?
What killed Luke?
Why didn't force ghost Anakin slap some sense into Kylo Ren in the last movie?
How much time passed between this film and Force Awakens? Did Rey arrive at Luke's place at the start of this film, or the end of last one?
Why aren't all droids as competent as BB-8?
What happened to Matt from Lost?
Are Twi'leks now extinct?
Who the fuck is Maz Kanata, and why should we care?
How will Leia die, and why did they have to kill everything we ever loved!?
Do Monkey/Horse/Dogs make orphans into jedis?
Why name anyone DJ? And what happened to the ACTUAL codebreaker?
Where are the crew of the Ghost and the characters from Star Wars: Rebels?
Did no Ewoks have a desire to leave the moon of Endor and hangout with the Resistance?
What about Wookies?
And where do the Hutts fall in the grand scheme of these new films?
And when is that traitorous traitor going to spring his treachery?