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by CosmicMonkey
Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:49 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: NYT Top 25 of the 21st Century
Replies: 25
Views: 18202

Re: NYT Top 25 of the 21st Century

So if anyone was wondering I looked through all 7 of the top 25 lists that were submitted by users in the thread and did a quick count of all the films that show more than once:

    6 Appearances:
    Mulholland Drive (David Lynch, 2001)

    5 Appearances:
    There Will be Blood (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2007)

    3 Appearances:

    The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (Andrew Dominik, 2007)
    Margaret (Kenneth Lonergan, 2011)

    2 Appearances:

    A Separation (Asghar Farhadi, 2011)
    Black Swan (Darren Aronofsky, 2010)
    Certified Copy (Abbas Kiarostami, 2010)
    City of God (Katia Lund & Fernando Mereilles, 2002)
    Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (Ang Lee, 2000)

    The Dark Knight (Christopher Nolan, 2008)
    Dogville (Lars Von Trier, 2003)
    Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (Michel Gondry, 2004)
    The Fountain (Darren Aronofsky, 2006)
    The Hurt Locker (Kathryn Bigelow, 2008)

    Inglourious Basterds (Quentin Tarantino, 2009)
    Irreversible (Gaspar Noé, 2002)
    Memories of Murder (Bong Joon-Ho, 2003)
    No Country for Old Men (Ethan & Joel Coen, 2007)
    Saraband (Ingmar Bergman, 2003)

    The Son (Jean-Pierre & Luc Dardenne, 2002)
    Spirited Away (Hayao Miyazaki, 2001)
    Synecdoche, New York (Charlie Kaufman, 2008)
    Ten (Abbas Kiarostami, 2002)
    Two Lovers (James Gray, 2008)

    Wall·E (Andrew Stanton, 2008)
    Where the Wild Things Are (Spike Jonze, 2009)
    Winter Sleep (Nuri Bilge Ceylan, 2014)


Coincidentally, the total number of films with two or more appearances equals 27 (or atleast until another user decides to contribute to this forum), so you could say it's as if we inadvertently created our own critcicker alternative to the top 25 films of the 21st Century. I must admit it has some surprising admissions, and even one from a filmmaker I've never even heard of before, but will certainly check out after this.

Some other trivia:
- Only Directors with more than one film are Abbas Kiarostami and Darren Aronofsky, both with 2 each.
-The Year with the most films is 2008, with 5, whereas 2005, 2012, 2013, 2015, 2016 and 2017 all have none.
- 16 of 27 films (or 59%) are English-language films. The next most-represented are French with 3, followed by Farsi with 2.
by AFlickering
Mon Jun 12, 2017 2:51 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: NYT Top 25 of the 21st Century
Replies: 25
Views: 18202

Re: NYT Top 25 of the 21st Century

boyhood and million dollar baby are the worst things there. maybe munich too although i need to rewatch that.

mine, in chronological order and one per director:
george washington (green, 2000)

mulholland drive (lynch, 2001)
the royal tenenbaums (w. anderson, 2001)
the man who wasn't there (coen bros., 2001)

the son (dardennes, 2002)
morvern callar (ramsay, 2002)

dogville (von trier, 2003)
memories of murder (bong, 2003)

keane (kerrigan, 2004)
mysterious skin (araki, 2004)

miami vice (mann, 2006)

there will be blood (p. t. anderson, 2007)
the assassination of jesse james... (dominik, 2007)

synecdoche new york (kaufman, 2008)
love exposure (sono, 2008)

two lovers (gray, 2009)
where the wild things are (jonze, 2009)

certified copy (kiarostami, 2010)
into eternity (madsen, 2010)

margaret (lonergan, 2011)
tinker tailor soldier spy (alfredson, 2011)

cosmopolis (cronenberg, 2012)
romancing in thin air (to, 2012)
tabu (gomes, 2012)

a field in england (wheatley, 2013)

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alternatively could've picked MY WINNIPEG, TALK TO HER, THE HOUSE OF MIRTH, FLIGHT OF THE RED BALLOON, THE NEW WORLD, OBSERVE AND REPORT, THE COLOR WHEEL, OSLO AUGUST 31, THE ACT OF KILLING, WUTHERING HEIGHTS, THE UNSPEAKABLE ACT, TWIXT etc. also hong sang-soo's whole 21st century filmography should be allowed as one entry.

current 10th tier PSIs (well known-very popular) that i haven't seen are AS I WAS MOVING AHEAD OCCASIONALLY..., TIE XI QU: WEST OF THE TRACKS, WHAT TIME IS IT THERE?, IN VANDA'S ROOM, SYNDROMES AND A CENTURY, DEVILS ON THE DOORSTEP, TOUTES LES NUITS.
by 3dRevelation
Sun Jun 11, 2017 3:18 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: NYT Top 25 of the 21st Century
Replies: 25
Views: 18202

Re: NYT Top 25 of the 21st Century

I've seen 7 films from the NYT list (3 of which are on mine: There Will Be Blood, The Hurt Locker, and Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind). I agree wholeheartedly with the placement of TWBB as the number 1 film as I haven't seen a film from this century that I consider better. I'm the first to not include Mulholland Drive on my list. I've seen and like it, but not quite enough to place it on my top 25. Here it is (ranked in order, but maybe not etched in stone):

1. There Will Be Blood
2. A History of Violence
3. Requiem for a Dream
4. The Departed
5. Lord of the Rings (I'm cheating by counting the trilogy as one entry, it's spot earned by being where I would put my favorite of the three at)
6. The Dark Knight
7. Pan's Labyrinth
8. The Fountain
9. Donnie Darko
10. Mystic River
11. Inception
12. The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford
13. House of Sand and Fog
14. The Prestige
15. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
16. Black Swan
17. Inglourious Basterds
18. 21 Grams
19. Elephant
20. The Hurt Locker
21. The Wrestler
22. No County for Old Men
23. Adaptation
24. Babel
25. Before the Devil Knows You're Dead

It's interesting to compare these to the BBC poll of 177 critics that was released last year (http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/201608 ... -who-voted). Each of the critics polled picked a top 10. Of the films on my list only The Fountain, House of Sand and Fog, and 21 Grams do not appear on any of the 177 top 10s. So those three must just be my personal taste, although Mentaculus also included The Fountain. Several appear only on 1 list, but there were some surprises like finding Elephant on 6 of the 177 lists.

Peter Travers is one of my favorite critics, and I find myself agreeing with him often, but I find it interesting that in his top 10 for BBC, he ranked Mulholland Drive number 1 and There Will Be Blood 2. His previous Top 10 of the decade of the 2000s published in Rolling Stone had There Will Be Blood at 1 and Mulholland Drive at 3 (behind Children of Men at 2). He also had No Country for Old Men rated 3 in the BBC poll, but had in 5 on his top 10 of the 2000s on Rolling Stone. His 4th favorite film of the 2000s listed on Rolling Stone was A History of Violence, which curiously doesn't make his top 10 in the BBC. Just goes to show that years from now my feeling might change.