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Lady Bird

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Re: Lady Bird

Postby Frank » Mon Dec 04, 2017 6:58 am

I saw this yesterday after seeing the Criticker recommendation and I have to say I was pleasantly surprised. There was no point in the movie where I found myself bored or wanting it to end; the story was simple one about self-discovery and coming of age, but it worked well.

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Re: Lady Bird

Postby PrestoBix » Mon Dec 04, 2017 9:00 am

Frank wrote: There was no point in the movie where I found myself bored or wanting it to end


Yep. The film was edited very succinctly. Perhaps it's best achievement actually.

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Re: Lady Bird

Postby OMGFridge » Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:45 am

Not out my way till Feb 9 :cry:

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Re: Lady Bird

Postby Stewball » Tue Dec 12, 2017 2:05 pm

Another middling teen girl coming-of-age repeat with a docile father, misguided bitch of a mother, and a couple of completely obvious, irrelevant, dropped into the plot gay threads for a ratings/awards boost. 6/10.

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Re: Lady Bird

Postby PrestoBix » Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:12 am

Stewball wrote:Another middling teen girl coming-of-age repeat with a docile father, misguided bitch of a mother, and a couple of completely obvious, irrelevant, dropped into the plot gay threads for a ratings/awards boost. 6/10.


Pretty cynical read of the movie.

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Re: Lady Bird

Postby Stewball » Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:34 am

PrestoBix wrote:
Stewball wrote:Pretty cynical read of the movie.


Well yeah, but there are two kinds of cynicism, false and true. If the Truth hurts, it's the latter, and
I only deal in that--much to the false cynicism of my detractors who can only mumble and sigh. 8-)

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Re: Lady Bird

Postby PrestoBix » Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:56 pm

Stewball wrote:
PrestoBix wrote:
Stewball wrote:Pretty cynical read of the movie.


Well yeah, but there are two kinds of cynicism, false and true. If the Truth hurts, it's the latter, and
I only deal in that--much to the false cynicism of my detractors who can only mumble and sigh. 8-)


Haha, ok. I always wanna give the benefit of the doubt. Besides, I thought the gay thread was the most touching part of the film. I went from feeling from Lady Bird's perspective and being mad at the kid for cheating/lying to her, and in a second realized that his life is whole lot harder than hers, and sympathizing with him.

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Re: Lady Bird

Postby Stewball » Fri Dec 15, 2017 6:11 am

PrestoBix wrote:
Stewball wrote:
PrestoBix wrote:


Well yeah, but there are two kinds of cynicism, false and true. If the Truth hurts, it's the latter, and
I only deal in that--much to the false cynicism of my detractors who can only mumble and sigh. 8-)


Haha, ok. I always wanna give the benefit of the doubt. Besides, I thought the gay thread was the most touching part of the film. I went from feeling from Lady Bird's perspective and being mad at the kid for cheating/lying to her, and in a second realized that his life is whole lot harder than hers, and sympathizing with him.


I could agree with you if the movie had been made 50 years ago. But it's become such a cliché, and with homosexuality so open, there's hardly a TV sit-com made without it--thus cheapening its impact further every time it's used, whether to meaningful purpose or not.

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Re: Lady Bird

Postby PrestoBix » Fri Dec 15, 2017 6:37 am

Stewball wrote:
PrestoBix wrote:
Stewball wrote:
Well yeah, but there are two kinds of cynicism, false and true. If the Truth hurts, it's the latter, and
I only deal in that--much to the false cynicism of my detractors who can only mumble and sigh. 8-)


Haha, ok. I always wanna give the benefit of the doubt. Besides, I thought the gay thread was the most touching part of the film. I went from feeling from Lady Bird's perspective and being mad at the kid for cheating/lying to her, and in a second realized that his life is whole lot harder than hers, and sympathizing with him.


I could agree with you if the movie had been made 50 years ago. But it's become such a cliché, and with homosexuality so open, there's hardly a TV sit-com made without it--thus cheapening its impact further every time it's used, whether to meaningful purpose or not.


I don't think it's healthy to require originality in the narrative in order for a film to be good. Films are (in this instance) supposed to be a reflection of real life and real when you are trying to paint an accurate portrayal of the human condition, of course the same things are going to be said twice. When portraying real life I think all consideration of how original something is needs to be thrown out the window, and we instead need to judge the film on how accurate the portrayal is and how genuine it feels.


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