What proportion of your ranked movies are American?

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Re: What proportion of your ranked movies are American?

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Out of 1994 films...
1453 are from USA (72%)
I'm not sure if I consider that as high number or not. Admittedly it is, but then again I am a fan of classic Hollywood, and my total film rankings include some hundreds of animated cartoons from Disney and Warner, which skew the numbers.

Other major ones (keeping in mind that some of the issues are a bit odd, and especially Europeans are fond of shared productions...)
France 178 (8.9%)
UK 157 (7.9%)
Finland 94 (4.7%) (guess where I am from)
Italy 63 (3.2%)
Japan 60 (3.0%)
Germany 44 (2.2%)
Hong Kong 22 (1.1%)
Sweden 17 (0.9%)
Spain 16 (0.8%)

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paulofilmo wrote:As far as I know, it refers to the money rather than any kind of identity. Apparently this is the preferred method for acquiring/organising the data.


So basically, this isn't a fanzone or art appreciation site, it's cinematic financing resource. That does explain a lot.

Perhaps there's a database out there for sculpture that does this very thing.


So, once you set your mind on walking in a given direction, you pretty much keep walking in that direction come hell or volcano. Plays hell getting that sulfur stink out.


kyvetti wrote:Finland 94 (4.7%) (guess where I am from)


I'd say Finland, but the way things work here apparently, I'd have to say who knows and it doesn't matter anyway, unless you want to buy the site or something.

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Well, plenty of films do cross national boundaries since they are not fully dependent on the language either and require considerably more group effort than most other forms of art.
Elsewhere when this has been discussed some suggested the nationality of the director (long live auteur theory), but this was quickly shot down with popular examples where this fails (especially if we are talking about the place where the director is from, considering the amount of American directors born in various European countries...)

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kyvetti wrote:Well, plenty of films do cross national boundaries since they are not fully dependent on the language either and require considerably more group effort than most other forms of art.
Elsewhere when this has been discussed some suggested the nationality of the director (long live auteur theory), but this was quickly shot down with popular examples where this fails (especially if we are talking about the place where the director is from, considering the amount of American directors born in various European countries...)


Yeah, but that's not what we're talking about here; rather, attributing a film to countries base only on its financing.

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Stewball wrote:
paulofilmo wrote:As far as I know, it refers to the money rather than any kind of identity. Apparently this is the preferred method for acquiring/organising the data.


So basically, this isn't a fanzone or art appreciation site, it's cinematic financing resource. That does explain a lot.


I think it's just for practicality.

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5928

44% USA (34% of top-tier)

13% France (%10)
12% Turkey (%7)
11% UK (%16)

6% W. Germany+Germany (%13)
5% Italy (%10)
4% Canada (%2)
3% Soviet Union+Russia (%5)
3% Spain (%5)
2% Japan (%2)

1% Poland
1% Sweden
1% Australia
1% Czech
1% Belgium
1% Netherlands
1% Austria
1% Greece
1% Switzerland
1% Iran
1% Hungary
...

[%s exceed 100 because of co-productions.]

I would expect Spanish+Russian films more in top-tier for my dispositions. That's reflected. But I didn't have any deliberate preference for German productions, I guess. I think that is because of huge number of co-productions (European triangle between Germany-France-Italy or German-USA, UK-USA links) involved. That's partly true for the UK, too.[/quote]
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ehk2 wrote:6% W. Germany+Germany (%13 of tier)

I would expect Spanish+Russian films more in top-tier for my dispositions. That's reflected. But I didn't have any deliberate preference for German productions, I guess. I think that is because of huge number of co-productions (European triangle between Germany-France-Italy or German-USA, UK-USA links) involved. That's partly true for the UK, too.


In fact, as I inspect my top-tier German-produced films, only a few qualify to called for a German cultural/artistic product. I guess, all other/most is Deutsche Mark or Euro. They are everywhere from East Europe/Russia to Mediterranean and to North America!
*German expressionism of 1930s -Lang, Murnau...
*A few W. Herzog films
*Well-known films like Das Boot, The Lives of Others, Good-Bye Lenin...
*A few Farocki, some other documentaries
*Fassbinder, Winders not in my top-tier

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Re: What proportion of your ranked movies are American?

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2012
[spoiler]1674 of 2703, or a little less than 62% according to Criticker
but yeah, it puts a "USA" listing on some movies that are an American co-production even if they were actually made elsewhere.

Roughly:
12% are British
11.5% are French
6.5% are Italian
4.5% are Japanese, 4.5% are Eastern European
3.4% are German, 2.2% are Scandinavian, 1.8% are Israeli and 1.4% are Spanish[/spoiler]

2015
[spoiler]That was 2012. Here is an update:

Out of 3673:
2157 USA, or about 58.7%
445 French, or about 12.1%
431 UK, or about 11.7%
265 Italian, or about 7.2%
238 German, or about 6.5%
171 Japanese, or about 4.7%
149 Eastern Europe, or about 4.1% (including Russia, Turkey)
109 Canada, or about 3%
85 Scandinavia, or about 2.3% (including Finland)
82 Israeli, or about 2.2%
67 Chinese-speaking countries, or about 1.8%
56 Australian, 41 Iranian[/spoiler]

2017
Out of 4422:
2516 USA, or about 56.9%
576 France, or about 13%
510 UK, or about 11.5%
333 Italy, or about 7.5%
278 Germany, or about 6.3%
220 Japan, or about 5%
134 Canada, or about 3%
107 Israel, or about 2.4%
100 Chinese-speaking countries, or about 2.3%
71 Australia, or about 1.6%
66 Spain, or about 1.5%
61 Sweden, or about 1.4%
47 Iran, or about 1.1%

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Re: What proportion of your ranked movies are American?

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I find these stats quite interesting

84.5% USA
41.2% non-USA

11.3% Germany
11.1% UK
10.3% Canada
5.0% Australia
3.2% Japan
3.1% France
1.5% Spain
1.5% Czech
1.1% New Zealand
0.8% Italy
0.8% Netherlands

Being from Canada and availability issues before streaming was an option explains why things are where they are. What's surprising is how high Germany is, a lot of co-productions I guess. I'll see where all is once more movies are input to database.

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Re: What proportion of your ranked movies are American?

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Total = 1975
USA = 1771, 89%

Other English speaking country production or co-production films (UK, Can, Aus, Ire, NZ,)
2190 = 111%

Only films with substantial subtitles I can remember ranking are The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (2009), and Slumdog Millionaire (the latter being the best subtitling format ever).

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