Top 5 Director Averages

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Re: Top 5 Director Averages

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FitFortDanga wrote:Well, I didn't look up EVERY director, but the most likely candidates, and came up with:

1. Anh-Hung Tran - 94.67 (3 films)
2. Ming-Liang Tsai - 92.56 (9 films)
3. Emir Kusturica - 88.43 (7 films)
4. Kenji Mizoguchi - 86.5 (6 films)
5. Francois Truffaut - 86.22 (9 films)

While these are all among my favorite directors, the ones I'm REALLY fanatical about (Bergman, Herzog, Hitchcock, Bunuel, Satyajit Ray, Kurosawa) have lower scores. This is because they have large bodies of work and I've tried to see as much of it as I can... including their failures. Tran, Tsai, and Kusturica haven't done a whole lot. And Mizoguchi and Truffaut each have a LOT of films I haven't seen yet.


It's been over 2 years, decided to update mine. Setting a minumum of 5 films (except in Malick's case, where he only has 4).

Terrence Malick - 87.5 (4)
Masaki Kobayashi - 86.0 (6)
Ming-liang Tsai - 85.3 (10)
Peter Jackson - 84.6 (5)
David Lean - 84.5 (8)

This is pretty surprising. Kobayashi would probably go down if I were to rewatch/re-rate the Human Condition movies, and/or saw more of his work. Peter Jackson is based almost entirely on LOTR and Heavenly Creatures, I've stayed away from his early gross-out stuff (saw a few minutes of Meet the Feebles and hated it). David Lean got a big boost because I really liked Doctor Zhivago, but I'm still shocked to see up him there. Anh Hung Tran got knocked way down for the abysmal I Come With the Rain, and a couple of so-so shorts I managed to see.

If I were forced to choose my 10 favorite directors, they would be:

Ming-liang Tsai - 85.3 (10)
Kenji Mizoguchi - 83.06 (16)
Akira Kurosawa - 81.42 (26)
Francois Truffaut - 81.09 (22)
Satyajit Ray - 80.11 (35)
Ingmar Bergman - 75.43 (49)
Luis Bunuel - 75.34 (29)
Woody Allen - 74.76 (37)
Alfred Hitchcock - 74.64 (36)
Werner Herzog - 73.35 (37)

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10s based on directors who I've seen 5+ films from...

Top 10:
1. Krzysztof Kieslowski - 9
2. Francis Ford Coppola - 8.86
3. Stanley Kubrick - 8.67
4. Tobe Hooper - 8.2
5. David Cronenberg - 8.14
6. Alfred Hitchcock - 8
°°. Martin Scorsese - 8
°°. Quentin Tarantino - 8
9. Jean-Luc Godard - 7.83
10. Trey Parker - 7.8
°°. Gus Van Sant - 7.8

Of those listed, I expect Godard's average will rise once I've taken in the remainder of his films, several of which I'll be seeing close together in the near future. I'm not too enthusiastic about those Tarantino blind spots, so he'll possibly drop off. Haven't seen Coppola films that are supposedly his weakest, same with Scorsese. Could have a substantially different list by this time next year, I guess.

Bottom 10:
1. Hawley Pratt - 2.71
2. Adam Shankman - 3.6
3. David Zucker - 4.2
4. Ron Howard - 4.33
°°. Thomas Edison - 4.33
6. Louis Lumiere - 4.5
7. Kunihiko Yuyama - 4.57
°°. Edwin S. Porter - 4.57
9. Jack King - 4.6
10. Barry Sonnenfeld - 4.83

I guess I subconsciously avoid seeing numerous films from the most terrible filmmakers I can think of (Boll, et al). Didn't recognise Hawley Pratt's name at first but now I see he's the director of many a Pink Panther short, which are frequently abysmal - so his average could become even worse than it already is.


Other notable directors:
Terrence Malick - 9.25 (only has 4 films on Criticker)
Dario Argento - 7.75
Brian De Palma - 7.73
Kevin Smith - 7.71
Steven Spielberg - 7.53
John Carpenter - 7.5
Guillermo Del Toro - 7.5
George A. Romero - 7.3
Joe Dante - 7.29
John Hughes - 7.25 (seen all of his films)
Maya Deren - 7
David Lynch - 7
Rob Zombie - 6.83
Robert Rodriguez - 6.78
Tim Burton - 6.73

I expect averages of De Palma, Spielberg, Dante and Deren to go north upon viewing their other films. Smith, Del Toro and Rodriguez seem most likely to descend once I catch the blind spots.

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Re: Top 5 Director Averages

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I have seen very few films (less than 5) from a lot of great and even favorite directors, so with that in mind, at a minimum of 5 pictures, we have

Sidney Lumet (6 films, 80 average)
Yuen Woo-Ping (6 films, 78.83 average)
Takashi Miike (5 films, 77.6 average)
Sammo Hung (8 films, 72.88 average)
Mel Brooks (5 films, 72.4 average)
Martin Scorsese (7 films, 72.14 average)
James Cameron (5 films, 71.2 average)
Guy Hamilton (6 films, 71.17 average)
Coen Brothers (7 films, 69.43 average)

Never heard of Guy Hamilton before, but he apparently directed some of my favorite Bonds, as well as the highly entertaining "Remo Williams" and "Evil under the Sun" (Hercule Poirot mystery). A couple of kung fu directors have incredibly high averages, but that's mostly because I have only seen their classic works, and not some of the garbage they mass-produced. Only Lumet and the Coen Brothers are among my list of all-time favorite directors.

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Directors who aren't really my favorites are italicized

Jean-Pierre Melville - 8
Jacques Rivette - 7.69
Luis Buñuel - 7.55
Lina Wertmüller - 7.5
Fellini - 7.5
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Milos Forman - 7.5
Louis Malle - 7.46
Luc Moullet - 7.38
Robert Bresson - 7.29
Jerzy Skolimowski - 7.23
Jiri Menzel - 7.2
Claude Chabrol - 7.12
Quentin Tarantino - 7
Wojciech Has - 6.92
Eric Rohmer - 6.87
François Truffaut - 6.71
Jean-Luc Godard - 6.47
Jacques Demy - 6.33
Resnais - 6.1

I'm kind of surprised my averages are so much lower than everybody else's.

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Ibn Salami wrote:I'm kind of surprised my averages are so much lower than everybody else's.


Probably because of your relatively small number of films, and that such a high proportion of them are genuinely really good. Like, if you only ranked films considered "classics", you would probably enjoy the vast majority of them, but they might not be as high in your tiers, since you don't have many mediocre or bad films to balance them out.

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My highest director averages (five movie cutoff):

Yasujiro Ozu (6) 81.33
Masaki Kobayashi (6) 79.17
Yimou Zhang (9) 76
Fritz Lang (6) 74
Alfred Hitchcock (14) 73.79

Other very high scores:
Hayao Miyazaki (8) 73.25
Billy Wilder (7) 73.14
Ernst Lubitsch (5) 72.2
Akira Kurosawa (14) 72.14
Martin Scorsese (13) 70.23
Roman Polanski (9) 69.67
Wong Kar Wai (7) 69.14
Stanley Kubrick (11) 69.09
David Cronenberg (10) 68.5
Mamoru Oshii (8) 67.63

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Re: Top 5 Director Averages

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Update, more than two years on. My previous five:

Icarus wrote:1. Robert Bresson - 96.44 (9)
2. Tsai Ming-liang - 88.63 (8)
3. P.T. Anderson - 88 (5)
4. Orson Welles - 87.4 (5)
5. Charles Chaplin - 86.1 (10)


My new top five:

Jean-Pierre and Luc Dardenne - 96.4 (5)
Robert Bresson - 95.4 (10)
Yasujiro Ozu - 95 (5)
Roberto Rossellini - 92.8 (5)
Ernst Lubitsch - 91.6 (5)

. . . plus other favorites. Both Chaplin and Ford are personal favorites, but with the number of films of theirs I've seen, the scores come down.

Jafar Panahi - 89.4 (5)
Orson Welles - 89.33 (9)
P.T. Anderson - 89 (5)
Hayao Miyazaki - 88 (9)
Kryzsztof Kieslowski - 87.72 (18)
Jia Zhang Ke - 87 (6)
Abbas Kiarostami - 86.57 (7)
Stanley Kubrick - 86.17 (12)
Andrei Tarkovsky - 85.5 (8)
Wes Anderson - 84.43 (7)
F. W. Murnau - 84.4 (5)
Tsai Ming-liang - 84.33 (9)
Richard Linklater - 84.27 (11)
Carl Theodor Dreyer - 84.22 (9)
Ingmar Bergman - 83.59 (17)
Mohsen Makhmalbaf - 82.4 (5)
John Ford - 82.18 (67)
Akira Kurosawa - 79.57 (30)
Charles Chaplin - 65.98 (42)

And bringing up the rear, for directors I've seen at least five of their films:

Tony Scott 48.75 (8)
Oliver Stone 46 (5)

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5 Film Minimum:
1. Darren Aronofsky 87.8 (5 films)
2. Christopher Nolan 87 (7 films)
3. PT Anderson 85.4 (5 films)
4. Peter Jackson 84.8 (5 films)
5. Martin Scorsese 84 (6 films)

Those are the top 5 out of 12 directors (11 if you count the Coens as 1) I have seen 5 or more films by.

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6 film minimum:

1. Luis Bunuel (16 films, 83.5 average)
2. Jean-Pierre Melville (7 films, 82.86 avg)
3. Wes Anderson (7, 82.43)
4. Emeric Pressburger (8, 82.38)
5. Preston Sturges (8, 82.25)
6. Wong Kar Wei (7, 81.86)
7. Kenji Mizoguchi (9, 81.56)
8, Masaki Kobayashi (7, 81.43)
9. Krzysztof Kieslowski (8, 80.88)
10. Michael Haneke (6, 80.83)

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Re: Top 5 Director Averages

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4 films minimum
Christopher Nolan 89.33 (6)
Darren Aronofsky 87.25 (4)
Stanley Kubrick 83.6 (5)
Quentin Tarantino 83.44 (9)
Martin Scorsese 81.67 (6)
Tim Burton 79.83 (12)
Joel Coen, Ethan Coen 78.86 (7)
Guy Ritchie 78.25 (4)
Peter Jackson 77.5 (4)
Ridley Scott 76.43 (6)
David Lynch 76.4 (5)
David Fincher 75.43 (7)

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