ShogunRua wrote:JohnSandwich wrote:First, what about the film industry, generally, and filmmaking specifically, would make it something more males are interested in? What about it makes the female less interested?
What about science makes it more attractive to men? What about modeling makes it more attractive to women?
These are worthwhile questions, but they have nothing to do with the name of the topic.
LOL. Of course they have something to do with the topic, at least until you actually say something that disproves that it is reasonable to believe that sexism is a contributing factor to the statistics in the case of male:female ratio of directors.
JohnSandwich wrote:I mean, the simple reason film school students are 80% male could be that 83% of working directors are male, making it a male-dominated profession and environment, which can both cause intimidation and ambiguity as to whether women are welcome or will be getting a fair shake. Which would lead to them opting for a safer route, since both women and men tend to want to be realistic and smart about decisions that directly affect their futures.
ShogunRua wrote:Oh, so your argument for most directors being men is the "fear and intimidation (sic)" women face? Again, like the guy above, do you have a shred of evidence for this, or is it just angry vitriol against "The Man"?
Let's assume for a second you're right. Women face horrific "fear and intimidation" in film school, Hollywood, or if they even remotely consider the possibility of directing, they're yelled at.
LOL that is not my argument. My argument was that for a woman to go into a field consisting of 83% males can be intimidating, regardless of whether there is a legitimate reason for that apprehension or not, since the numbers would indicate it's viewed as a "Man's job". Until it is no longer viewed as a man's job (meaning that there is no longer any ambiguity regarding whether or not women are treated the same and given the same opportunities as men in said profession) it remains quite possible that sexism is afoot, according to definition provided by Merriam-Webster.
JohnSandwich wrote:From your main argument I assume it is once again that white people are just less inclined to play professional basketball, they just don't like it, don't aspire to it, for some weird biological reason. In that case I would like to see percentages of white to black people in basketball from the start of the sport up until now. Or is your conclusion that black people are just biologically a better make (read: better players) for basketball than white people, and this is not racism because it is just biology yo?
ShogunRua wrote:It's a complicated question actually, with multiple reasons for the discrepancy.
Part of it is in fact biological; humans with West African ancestry, for instance, tend have more quick-twitch muscle fiber, have calf muscles higher up on their legs (allows them to jump higher), have narrower hips, and are generally taller than most Caucasians.
It's no different than why most Asians are much shorter and smaller than most Caucasians.
However, it's not the only reason; many impoverished blacks see basketball as a ticket out of a dangerous neighborhood for themselves and their family, and thus, pursue it with a passion and intensity many other players in more secure settings lack.
For more men than women being in directing, I think it's a bit simpler...men are just more interested in it! Hard as it is to believe, certain professions having more of one gender than the other does not automatically indicate any bias.
Sure it's that simple, if you're a simpleton just out to pick a fight! It amazes me that you do not see what an earth-shattering fail your analogy meant to demonstrate someone else's "warped logic" was. According to your interpretation of the statistics you chose to liken to male/female director statistics, you are saying that more men are directors because they are innately better at it than women, in addition to the fact that women just don't have the same drive as men. Which is, you know, just cartoonishly sexist.