Recent dramas with MANLY men

[edkrak]

I'm tired of today's feminization of culture and all the emasculated male characters in modern cinema. While real men can still be found in action films (ex. Crank) I have hard time finding them in dramas (especially those coming from USA). Probably the most frequent symbolic representation of this trend is the "couch/hotel room". Every time there's a conflict in a relationship in a film "man" sleeps on a couch or gets a room in a hotel regardless of who's at fault. I want films where male character is dominant, confident, stands up for himself and can say "no" to women. I want a male character who is able to say "Lady, you fucked up, now get out of my house!". Any recommendations of films free of nerds, prince charmings, pussy-whipped husbands and other manginas?

[MmzHrrdb]

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[Stewball]

The Bourne Legacy qualifies. In the scene where she's hysterical and freaking out, he stops the car, explains the situation to her and tells her if she can't get it together, to get out of the car.

BTW, I don't think the man leaving in a domestic dispute is necessarily an admission of inferiority or chickification. In fact it pretty much assumes the idea that men are more adaptable and resourceful and that it is the man's responsibility to provide for the woman/family even when faced with the dissolution of his family. This principle doesn't apply necessarily, nor is it commonly observed, in pre-marital, non-committed relationships. Chivalry is very much a dominant male, protected female code of conduct. Neither male nor female can have it both ways.

[edkrak]

Interesting, I didn't thought of it that way. In those films usually the guy is shown as both quite-submissive AND leaving the house, so maybe that got me confused. Well, I need to give it a thought.

[MmzHrrdb]

oh god yes, so tired of those movies made for women and queers

but seriously, what do you mean by "real" men? someone who's an abusive prick or just an overall asshole? can men seriously not express their emotions without being "emasculated"? also it's funny you mention crank cuz i thought those movies were pretty much a satire of what you're talking about but i guess not

[EbelC]

I'm tired of today's feminization of culture and all the emasculated male characters in modern cinema. While real men can (...)

God... I'm not real... I'm... false! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

There's no real man / false man. The term you're looking for is "stereotype" man (and other possible things could be added, since your "real man" concept involves "Crank" as a prototype).

[edkrak]

oh god yes, so tired of those movies made for women and queers

but seriously, what do you mean by "real" men? someone who's an abusive prick or just an overall asshole? can men seriously not express their emotions without being "emasculated"? also it's funny you mention crank cuz i thought those movies were pretty much a satire of what you're talking about but i guess not

Yeah ok, "Crank" was a pretty extreme example, couldn't think of anything better. But still there's a big difference between not being submissive and being abusive.
Alright I guess my first post wasn't clear enough with the foggy terms like "real man" and so on. So here's the crucial part by which I still stand by:

I want films where male character is dominant, confident, stands up for himself and can say "no" to women.

[Stewball]

I want films where male character is dominant, confident, stands up for himself and can say "no" to women.

Again, The Bourne Legacy, or all of the Bourne series for that matter if you think about it.

That said, what does male dominance really mean anyway? Is it dominance we're looking for, or everyone fulfilling their natural potential? Isn't male dominance a stereotype, which, as with most stereotypes is based on probabilities, yes, but it's not a lock.

[edkrak]

Yeah, I saw your previous post about Bourne, but forgot to comment on it. Thanks, I'll check it.

And by that point I feel like everybody's really picky about the exact words I've used instead of focusing on the essence. I'm not really searching for some precisely defined male archetype that should fit every single criteria, just recent dramas with strong male characters in leading roles.

[Ag0stoMesmer]

Frost/Nixon (2008) Nixons' old-fashioned macho and Frosts' more modern playboy-style 'manliness' set them apart but both had swagger. Good film too.