Oscar nominations vs. Mine/Yours

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zopz wrote: Also good to know that Black validation is contingent upon the culmination of White society in an Enlightenment era ideal.


What? I really have no idea how you got from A to B on that. Where "Black validation" come from unless you're talking about liberals??? I have always been and continue to be an advocate for a color blind society--a concept that appears to have died among liberals, with the assassination of MLK...along with, for the most part, what was the goal of true liberalism, freedom.

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CosmicMonkey wrote:Finally, it's happened! Stewball has found a way to combine both his perpetual complaints about political correctness and his undying fanboy-ism for The Accountant into a single forum post. Given how much he loves to talk about these topics,it was only a matter of time, I suppose. ;)


Yeah, I found a way, presented by a movie for which I am an unabashed OCD fanboy. It facilitated a response so perfect, it left you with no comeback except for this totally limp, irrelevant, personal attack. And anyway, which is worse, perpetual complaints about perpetual examples of political correctness, or the perpetual reliance on political correctness to prop up the left's perpetual strings of socialist psychobabblic propaganda. 8-)

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Stewball wrote:The Democrats are the real racists (the KKK being the military wing of the Democrat Party).

Really though? I'm not American and certainly no historian, but even I've heard of the Southern Strategy. I know I shouldn't take the bait here...

Regarding the Oscars, I've been under the impression for some time that most film enthusiasts consider them to be horseshit anyway. I considered them a huge deal as a kid and memorised all the winners but now I can't take them remotely seriously, especially since Sandra friggin' Bullock has one now *gag*

I'm frankly bewildered as to how Emma Stone got one for La La Land.

Would it be worth talking about which performances people thought were worthy of Academy Awards too? I personally haven't seen many of the big Oscar-bait dramas this year, and thus I don't think I've seen a single acting role worthy of such recognition.

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LBJ quote incoming

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Stewball wrote:
CosmicMonkey wrote:Finally, it's happened! Stewball has found a way to combine both his perpetual complaints about political correctness and his undying fanboy-ism for The Accountant into a single forum post. Given how much he loves to talk about these topics,it was only a matter of time, I suppose. ;)


Yeah, I found a way, presented by a movie for which I am an unabashed OCD fanboy. It facilitated a response so perfect, it left you with no comeback except for this totally limp, irrelevant, personal attack. And anyway, which is worse, perpetual complaints about perpetual examples of political correctness, or the perpetual reliance on political correctness to prop up the left's perpetual strings of socialist psychobabblic propaganda. 8-)



Oh please, get over yourself. Just because I don't have the time and energy at the moment right now to argue anonymously with someone on the internet who clearly holds completely different and opposing values and beliefs than me, it doesn't suddenly make you the Steven A. Douglas of the world wide web.*

What I said, I meant in jest. Although, I will admit that after re-reading it, the tone came across as a little harsher than I intended. If we looked back at your last 6 Months of forum activity I'd be willing to bet that at least 90% of your posts found a way to segue into either how great The Accountant is or some complaint about political correctness in Hollywood/modern Western society.

You have to admit there is a real predictability and formulaic-ness to Stewball's posts.


mattorama12 wrote:LBJ quote incoming


Oh look, someone else who has noticed the same thing.



*Am I using this reference right? He was someone famous for being a great debater and statesman?

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Stewball wrote:I have always been and continue to be an advocate for a color blind society . . . .


Then shouldn't Moonlight be able to win Best Picture if it is the best picture, regardless of the race of the characters and filmmakers? What you said earlier is basically that because they are black, it shouldn't be able to win because it either is reverse discrimination or at least [/i]could be[/i] reverse discrimination, and therefore its win can never be legitimate. If we're striving for color-blind, then it should be able to win if it's the best movie plain and simple.

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And because despite my quip, I'm actually far more interested in actually talking movies here (and politics only really to the extent they relate to movies).

On Nocturnal Animals--
Stewball wrote:A point, or at least one that wasn't buried in a tar pit somewhere.


There was a lot to take away, and points that I don't think were buried. Probably the most obvious is the parallels between physical violence and emotional abuse, and how emotional abuse can be equally devastating.

On Arrival--

Yeah, they turned out to be basically good guys, but the producers just couldn't resist pushing the Adrenalin button for the typical monster lovers in the audience before their benign character was revealed.


Ok, that makes sense. But they actually turned that on its head, so it was confusing to me that you described it as devolving into monster movie. I do agree that it was a weakness.

And besides that, the ending felt unfulfilling or unfinished, sort of like a plea for viewers to clamor for a sequel.


Unfulfilling, maybe. Unfinished? Definitely not. There's no way you could or should do a sequel. My problem with the ending was that it offered the twist, but then did not really offer any insight. It raised interesting questions without exploring them at all.

[spoiler]For example, is there free will at all? If Adams sees her future, does she have the power to change it at all? Did she wish she could? I actually read the novella before seeing the movie, so the twist itself obviously wasn't a surprise to me. I was hoping for a little more exploration of those ideas, which I didn't get (and which is explored more in the novella). It just let the obvious questions linger, which isn't terrible, just that I hoped for more.[/spoiler]

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CosmicMonkey wrote:You have to admit there is a real predictability and formulaic-ness to Stewball's posts.
CosmicMonkey wrote:Finally, it's happened! Stewball has found . . .


This sort of third person rhetoric feels really creepy to me, CM.

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I want the Accountant best picture + all the other oscars universe.

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I don't think thrillers get nominated very much to begin with traditionally though it's changed a bit in the past 5 years with the ones highlighted below from a list I found. It tends to be mostly dramas. Nightcrawler was the best one of the past few years imo and didn't get a nomination. Anyways, The Accountant didn't really have high enough reviews to get consideration. I thought Gone Baby Gone was Affleck's best film and even that didn't get a nomination.

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