Movies as Catalysts for Positive Change

[Suture Self]

You guys are once again limited to the American narrative and falsely extrapolating this to the rest of the planet, assuming that they base their choices upon the same knowledge as you.

To be fair to Americans, a significant portion of us don't tolerate this kind of bullshit. Unfortunately, a significant portion do, and a lot of them are white males on the internet.

[dardan]

To be fair to Muslims, a significant portion of them don't tolerate hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths of innocent civilians, having to be afraid when there are no clouds in the sky, having a foreign nation take your natural resources and dictate your policy under the banner of freedom and virtue while they work together with the Saudis. I don't agree with the right-wing muslims or the right-wing Americans, but I can understand where they come from.

If Iraq had invaded the US and killed millions of civilians 'as collateral damage', then their entire country would have been nuked.

[Stewball]

Both the Bible and the Koran are filled with contradictions where on one page it advocates peace and on the other the slaying of peoples.

There is a transition from violent theocracy to those who overthrow it in the name of reason, and that transition is called hypocrisy, where a good portion of the West resides. We in the US are still in the throes of fighting for that goal of true religious and political freedom. Of course some of those who make it to the other side miss that opiate of the masses and without even blinking replace the divine revelations of religious holy men, with the infallible revelations of socialist holy men. The parallels are unavoidable, most notably, the required submission of individuals to the priority of the whole. Thus the affinity of liberals for Muslims, who remain clueless until the objects of their one-way irrational alliance fly planes into buildings, use their children as IEDs, and slaughter people at random in the streets.

Lacking, on your parts, is an explanation why the hateful texts are followed over the peaceful texts.

I'm not here to defend any revealed religion or it's holy "scriptures" (I hate that word), or revealed holy political manifestos. Most of us have been freed from any obligation to those texts, unlike 97% of Muslims, and that 3% is so silent it may not even exist.

I agree that worrying numbers of muslims around the world advocate horrible practices, but I disagree with you guys on why this is and probably on how to best solve it. You guys assume Islam is inherently evil and thereby argue it to be impossible that it can change, whereas similar passages are in the Bible and have in the past been used for crimes worse than ISIS (look into Columbus).

All revealed religion is inherently evil because it's a lie, but Islam is still in the 7th Century and making no progress at all. I say that we have every right to criticize Islam, and above that, we have the right to defend ourselves, which you criticize, but then say we disagree on how to solve i--but then don't specify your solution. All you say is Christianity used to be like Islam. So why haven't they progressed in all that time? One reason is that infidels and apostates are executed.

[Stewball]

To be fair to Americans, a significant portion of us don't tolerate this kind of bullshit. Unfortunately, a significant portion do, and a lot of them are white males on the internet.

And a significant number of their appeasers are orange pussies, who rail in the darkness at the slow progress of the pussification of America.

[Stewball]

If Iraq had invaded the US and killed millions of civilians 'as collateral damage', then their entire country would have been nuked.

You make a good point but I doubt you realize it. Collateral damage in any war is greatly increased when we pull our punches with overly restrictive ROEs and not wanting to appear to be too strong.

[Pickpocket]

It's a shame this forum has been overrun by pathetic, hateful people.

lol, hit him right in the feels guys. No valid counter, just let me spew my emotions. Cuck

Both the Bible and the Koran are filled with contradictions where on one page it advocates peace and on the other the slaying of peoples.

Absolutely. However, the difference is one group is systematically raping women and children (often their own), flying planes into buildings, and committing mass murder in peaceful countries. With the extremist Christians the worse they do in the modern age is hold up a sign that says God hates fags. You don't see the difference? Or do you have to go back 500 years to prove your point?

You guys assume Islam is inherently evil and thereby argue it to be impossible that it can change

I'm sorry that you believe this but when your prophet is a warlord pedophile, you should not be surprised when the people that follow you share these bizarre beliefs. You realize Mohammed married a 6 year old but since he was a really good guy he waited till she was 9 to fuck her right? I don't know if there's anything more inherently evil than pedophilia.

Lacking, on your parts, is an explanation why the hateful texts are followed over the peaceful texts. Christians demonize(d) blacks and gays 'on account of the Bible'. But why don't they follow the ban on eating shrimp or pork?

I'm not sure why everyone who makes a valid point against Islam the counter is always BUT CHRISTIANS ARE HYPOCRITES TOO. It's like, yeah we know, but they aren't beheading people for disagreeing with them or drawing a picture of Jesus. I mean I would wager that the average BMI of the average Christian is well over 25, however this is not a threat to our civilization. Third world values and first world values will never coexist. When the West falls, so does civilization as we know it.

To be fair to Muslims, a significant portion of them don't tolerate hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths of innocent civilians

It doesn't matter if they will tolerate it or not. What power do they have? I'll let Briditte Gabriel answer for me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYjiSaV5VoE

[dardan]

Or do you have to go back 500 years to prove your point?

Yes, if your argument is that the evil is caused by Islam or the Koran instead of things not limited ethnocentrism and geopolitics, then that evil should hold somewhat constant since the religion has been widely practised. To also include Stewball in this answer, there has been progression within Islamic culture since the 7th century despite it now in many areas being where it was at centuries ago. The Ottoman empire, for example, has saved Jews from Christian persecution many times.

Considering I don't think religion is that large of a factor it isn't an argument against my model at all when you point to all the shit Muslims [in my model Arabs] now cause. I'll just point to all the shit Christians [in my model the West] has caused.

[CMonster]

It's a shame this forum has been overrun by pathetic, hateful people.

Don't throw these kinds of lines around like you aren't a part of it and everybody else is just irrational crazy people.

[dardan]

Plus (how did I forget?), you really want to bring in pedophilia as a way to argue Islam is worse than Christianity?

And to further clarify, take Nazi Germany. I think the causes of that on the side of Germany mostly lie in the consequences of the treaty of Versailles (the poverty, having no power, barely having influence on the policy in your country, having foreign troops roaming your streets etc.) rather than anti-semitism or other beliefs such as Christianity, which instead of sources of evil were means to achieve political ends.

[Pickpocket]

Plus (how did I forget?), you really want to bring in pedophilia as a way to argue Islam is worse than Christianity?

Literally the first time I've seen anyone claim that Jesus fucked children.

Don't throw these kinds of lines around like you aren't a part of it and everybody else is just irrational crazy people.

He thinks better than us commoners tho

Yes, if your argument is that the evil is caused by Islam or the Koran instead of things not limited ethnocentrism and geopolitics, then that evil should hold somewhat constant since the religion has been widely practised.

Please watch the video I posted. Over half of all Muslims are radicalized. It just goes back to what I said earlier, which you ignored, that the only argument the left has against Islam is to divert the topic towards Christianity and deflect any discussion towards their horrific religion because being seen as an Islamophobe is death to them. Listen, your country has accepted roughly 10,000 refugees. You'll be culturally enriched soon enough. And then maybe you'll learn. Or you guys can just keep mocking it like your hero John Oliver: http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/11/ ... nt-influx/